Apparently something about this in the "Hunt Report"?

I didn't see this in the Report. Can you direct me to the reference? I just flew with .500 Jeffery ammo and rifle and got no comments. Got me curious...

Here you go

http://www.huntingreport.com/worldupdate.cfm?articleid=367

Thanks Steve. This has been a known potential problem but not one that is widely in effect or enforced. It seems to be a misunderstanding of the regs themselves as I understand it.

We'll see what happens this summer as everyone travels. It would be a good idea to have a printed copy of the FAA rules on hand when flying.

I can't afford to have ammo confiscated. Brass alone is $6 a piece when I can find it not to mention the kibosh that can put on a hunt.

Bryan,

What regs are you referring to? I was pumped to take the .505 Gibbs, but this ammo thing has me spooked. I sent the NRA an email and guess what . . . no response. I wonder if they would have responded if I had a membership question, oh well.

Mike, I'm trying to find the regs now (doesn't seem to be on TSA) but I was aware that sometimes travelers have had trouble with .50 caliber or larger ammo. It's been so spotty that you don't hear much about it. I always thought it was a misinterpretation of the regs (which I'm looking for now).

Also, be aware that the larger airports (like DFW) now have that air puffer system (for lack of a better term). It blows air onto you in a closed system and then tests the air for traces of explosives. Keep that in mind if you've been around reloading components. I don't know how sensitive the equipment is.

There is no federal regulation limiting transportation of ammunition by caliber!!! This is something we have researched ad nauseum. The rules are clearly stated in BATFE and TSA publications. The BATFE defers to individual airlines policies. If anyone has NEW information please post a link so we might all review the information.

It is important that we are all well informed so as not to perpetuate any misconceptions.

This has nothing to do with TSA regulations. A full explanation of this has been provided here before. Here is a link for those interested:

AECA/ITAR

This needs to get sorted out at the federal regulatory level.

The trouble is, no one with any pull, such as the NRA, seems willing or able to do it. At least not so far.

Maybe with the occurrence of incidents like this, that will change. Maybe Don Causey can be of some help.

Not even the TSA understands the law.

Regarding the sniffers - I recently used my range bag as a carry-on during a round trip through SAN - LAX - FRA - BUD & back. The bag had ten years of use with fired cases, dirty magazines, and pistols floating around. Went through every security check point and several sniffers. Who knows what they are calibrated to sniff but I think it's good advise to clean everything if possible.

I would hardly call that a full explanation. No one really understands what is happening because it's not being enforced with any kind of consistency. I can personally see where it can be interpreted as to both sporting use and non-sporting use. It's anything but clear...business as usual.

I'm aware of the previous discussions but TSA is the one who is confiscating ammo...curious that they are not confiscating the guns too. We will probably have to deal with this at the local level on a case by case basis until something conclusive is determined at the federal level.

We definitely need to get the NRA off of their butts on this and get SCI engaged as well. Meanwhile my .470 Capstick conversion is looking better all the time ... of course until they clamp down on everything 45 cal and larger

Chuck

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Originally posted by yukon delta:

I would hardly call that a full explanation.

Sorry. I know it's confusing. But to a lawyer it is very clear that this is a real problem, and to a lawyer who happens to be a sportsman, and in particular a big bore rifle shooter, also very unfortunate and frustrating.

Here is another explanation for those with the patience and desire to understand:

More AECA/ITAR

I think some of us are confusing TRANSPORTATION with EXPORTATION. Even regarding the exportation clause as stated - the basis for the code is likely Title 27 Section 479.11. If there hasn't been a ruling then perhaps SCI and NRA should get involved and get an opinion from BATFE, TSA, etc. Of course, your destination may arbitrarily decide to enforce their own imaginary laws at any time.

Good luck getting some international convention of non-shooting leftist bureaucrats to rule in favor of global transportation of large caliber sporting ammunition.