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Any idea what animal this horn came from...? | ||
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It looks like a Blesbok horn to me. | |||
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That's what I am thinking too. | |||
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I could be wrong but when I opened the thread and saw the photo I thought Blesbok as well. ~Ann | |||
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I understand what you folks are saying about it might be a blesbok but I have 2 and neither of them has the distinct corrugated ridges on the sides of the horns like this scabbard has. Perhaps mine are really old animals. Otherwise I'm having trouble venturing a guess. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Thanks guys. Not me, but found this Blesbok and it looks about right. | |||
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Looking at the shape of the horn and the workmanship of the metalwork etc, I'd say there's a chance it's of east African origin. Any chance of showing the blade and a variety of angles? Also, do the ridges on the horn go all the way around it, or is it smooth at the back? | |||
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Shakari, the horn may be East African,but I suspect the knife was made in one of the ARABIC countries. ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Mac, I agree completely, there's a lot of Arabic influence in EA which was the very point I was making.... I've never seen that quality of work come out of southern Africa. - I'm not suggesting it doesn't just that I haven't seen anything that good..... I don't think it's blesbok as blesbok horns are usually ovoid rather than round and that horn looks too round - or at least, too round to be a blesbok. That horn also looks to be ridged all the way round and blesbok is flat (ish) at the back..... To say nothing of the fact that blesbok horn tends to curve in two seperate directions and that horn appears to only change shape in one direction. - my guess is it's more likely to be something of EA origin..... top end of one of the gazelles perhaps? - It'd probably be easier to identify with more pics though. I don't think it's possible for anyone to make an absolutely positive identification from one picture, no matter how good or experienced of different African countries they are ..... all anyone can do is make an educated guess at best. | |||
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Swahili/Arabic influence daggar. Thompson Gazelle of course. | |||
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Glad someone agrees with me! Any idea of age ofthe piece? | |||
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I purchased it in the Middle-East, but don't believe it to be very old. The metal is sort of like aluminum and appears to be stamped rather than engraved. | |||
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Not a Blesbok not even close.... Gazelle of some sort TG or what have you | |||
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"Tommie" was my first guess! JW | |||
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Can you show a photo with the daggar beside the scabbard please? Thanks. Where in the Middle East did you purchase it? In various counties (eg India, Pakistan) a lot of re-productions are made for the tourist market. Even though more cheaply done they look good on a wall at a distance. Close up they often show the defects. I like this one however with the gazelle horn scabbard. Very exotic. | |||
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Steve is 100% correct, not a Blesbok. The rings on a Blesbok is not so prominent, they do not go all the way around and they tend to be white on the lower parts of the horn. A Bontebok got darker horns and it does go all the way around, but it is not the horn of a Bontebok. I second that it is a Tommie Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips. Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation. Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984 PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197 Jaco Human SA Hunting Experience jacohu@mweb.co.za www.sahuntexp.com | |||
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My guess is that it's the top section of one of the gazelles, but it could be from pretty much any of the gazelles from anywhere in the regions they occur. As I said before, the workmanship looks east African/Arabic to me..... but of course, it could always be a copy from elsewhere. Is the handle made of ivory, bone or plastic? | |||
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John -- Here's the pic requested. Steve -- I suspect the handle is bone. My photography skills are nil but there is some yellowing that looks like what I've seen when fats/greases leach from bear skulls. I couldn't see the ends without disassembling the handle -- wanted to check for ivory "cross-hatching" like I have in some elephant ivory handgun grips. | |||
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Thanks for the unsheathed photo. Ivory will yellow as well. | |||
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I think Steve hit the nail on the head. However, I've seen this workmanship come out of India. They had a great influence during the Livingstone era and later. I will bet on the Gazelle family. Maybe Tommie but there are a couple of other suspects too. I would lean towards Ivory handle and inlays. The workmanship is much better quality than found in modern times, not the rank of royalty, but no poor man owned this knife originally. Badger Matt; if you can mail me a hard copy (several if possible) I'll examine it closely with Tommie, Grants and a few other species. Cool blade. My personal favorite is a custom knife with Mastodon tusk handles. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Not having examined it closely other than the photographs to me it looks like a modern tourist replica probably made by resident Indians in East Africa. The quality of the silver work would give it away and the blade. Modern replicas are usually stamped not engraved metal. Still a very nice conversion piece and I would definitely bargain for such a knife if I saw it if a decent price was possible. A good buy. Whether the handle or grip is ivory or bone, it could still be a replica. Ivory can be had on replica knives. | |||
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