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Frank also has one of the nicest LH m70 375 H&H I have seen I forget the story behind it but it’s a top rifle for sure! Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Beautiful rifle and all but this is one of the exact reasons I prefer to use my own gun. I'm completely unfamiliar with that set up. The only rifles I've shot with 2 triggers are doubles. That bolt handle and safety are also not what I'm acquainted with. When hunting something that can bite or stomp me, I want a rifle in hand I know how to operate without having to think about it. This one is obviously better than one of those Blaser contraptions tho. Same issues with unfamiliar functionality, but at least this one is attractive. | |||
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Ian, You should see Tank's left handed guns, he has custom lefty Mausers and double rifles that make me jealous. If he wasn't such a nice guy, I could hate him.  Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Todd, You make a very valid point about familiarity with a certain type of rifle. I've rented guns once on a major safari and had issues. The rifles were an Browning A-BOLT and Pre'64 Win. The A-BOLT had a shotgun type safety on the tang and at least a 7 lb trigger pull. I discarded that one as unusable after about day three. My muscle memory could not over come the safety and the trigger pull took far too much concentration. I finished the safari with the M-70 that still had a heavy trigger but otherwise worked fine. I think the safari company thought they had great loaners. The rifles were in good shape, had new Leupold scopes and they supplied top of the line Federal Ammo. I just think they didn't give a thought to the fact the rifles weren't tuned nor had been cleaned in God knows when. I never rented rifles after that but I'm going to next year. I was scheduled for Zambia and Mauritius this year but we've rescheduled for 2021. Mauritius doesn't allow tourists to import guns so I'm using Jonnie duPlooy's Brno's in Zambia. I have my fingers crossed. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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That hair trigger setup is typical of some European rifles and more so from the Germanic states where the hair trigger appears to be very fashionable (and dangerous). Widely preferred when sniping for Chamois in the craggy mountains and Stag or Roe Deer from a raised platform. The application of the hair trigger is obviously NOT obligatory and the forward trigger can be used as on any conventional rifle though I have found most to have some "free play" prior to breaking the sear. Not my cup of tea and would not recommend one for an African safari as once primed, the slightest jar can cause a discharge and toggling between rear and forward triggers to get out of the primed position can have disastrous effects for someone who is not accustomed to the system. | |||
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Set triggers do take time and practice to learn. I have several rifles with single and double set triggers. I have concluded that they are lots of fun, but not really all that helpful or practical. A normal trigger properly adjusted for crispness and weight of pull is all that is necessary. I might use a set trigger while hunting, but only if I were shooting from a solid rest and could take my time. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Oh I thought it was a spare trigger. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Which one did you think was the spare? Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I'll plan a trip to Bakersfield once the Zombie apocalypse is over. We can shoot them all. | |||
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Frank I know the feeling! I have a buddy with a collection of doubles. Plan was to see if he wanted to adopt me so I can inherit it from him Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I was only making comment on camp rifles from the point that Frank was making, "camp rifles are great as long as you are righted handed". I wasn't agreeing that camp rifles are great and I wouldn't use one unless in an emergency, I would always want to use my own rifle if on an African shoot as I did when shooting Aussie buffalo, an right handed Oberndorf Type A Mauser 404. Of course you won't find one of those as a camp rifle. If you have left handed rifles by all means take them on safari. If for some reason something happened to my rifle on safari the fact a camp rifle was a right handed bolt gun wouldn't faze me in the least, if it had a cheap scope on board wouldn't faze me either. The only thing I would be interested in is that the unit, gun, scope and ammo, would put a bullet where I wanted it to go. I would mourn the loss of my Mauser for whatever reason caused me to have to use a camp gun but I would be there to hunt, shoot accurately and kill an animal humanely, what with wouldn't kill my hunt. | |||
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Add a 12 1/4” length of pull to shooting left-handed and see what you get! I have a .300WinMag and a .375H&H, identical HS Precision rifles in different colors, with identical Swarovski scopes in different variables. Perfect setup as far as I’m concerned and I can’t believe my shooting wouldn’t suffer “making do.” Fit is extremely important in my book. | |||
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If used properly as it is supposed to be then not dangerous at all. Own lots of rifles with single set triggers and double set triggers and use then both in the field. Just like anything I guess, you need to know how it works and use it as its supposed to be used. . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | |||
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I find the discussion about lefties shooting right hand bolt rifles interesting. In my opinion, the finest American highpower Rifle shooter in history is Gary Anderson. He won Olympic Gold Medals in 300 meter Three Position shooting in 1964 and 1968. When he stopped shooting internationally, he shot NRA Highpower matches, winning the prestigious Presidents Match three times. Gary is a lefty, but shot a right handed bolt gun. He jury rigged a U shaped contraption to the bolt so he could operate it left handed from the left side. NRA Highpower matches have rapid fire sitting and rapid fire prone strings, and watching Gary manipulate his right hand bolt with his left hand from his left shoulder was a unique event. Boy could that guy shoot. He held the NRA record for 200 Yard Offhand at Camp Perry with a score of 200-15X. I became a Distinguished Rifleman at Camp Perry in 1985. Jesus saves, but Moses invests | |||
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I'm working on getting a .30-06 Steyr with a set trigger ready for Tanzania next year. Not my usual light rifle, but with croc on ticket, it should be more accurate if a bit less handy than my usual light rifle and the set trigger should be perfect for a croc with a good rest. Got used to the set triggers back when I used to shoot traditional muzzle loaders. They are sweet with a good rest. | |||
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Rifles I have for clients to use are: .375 H&H Dakota with a 1,75 - 10 Z6i Swarovski .375 H&H Winchester model 70 with a 1-6 Swarovski .300 Win Mag Parker Hale with a 2 - 12 Swarovski. | |||
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............................................    MacD37....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Bud, Is he still using the Ruger 308? | |||
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Jeffrey: Jan switched over to a Savage .308 with a heavy “Tactical” barrel. It’s a tack driver just like the Ruger .308 was. I’ve used both with equal success Jesus saves, but Moses invests | |||
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Thanks, just curious. | |||
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From a UK perspective and the embuggerance of our firearms licencing to own and use sufficiently a dedicated Safari rifle in anything much above a 300 win mag is a challenge. You can get a 9.3x62 or 375 conditioned to be used in the field, but anything bigger its going to be limited to approved ranges with limited ammo availability. And many ranges don’t allow energy levels much above 4,000 ft lbs. Thus the ability to own and become proficient with a Dangerous Game rifle is somewhat difficult. Going to Europe with rifles was simple with the European Firearms Pass, but given Brexit this also be a major embuggerance. So when I go big game hunting in Africa I will simply borrow a guides rifle and make sure its suitable. I will also make sure there is sufficient time and ammo for me to become fully familiar with it. I would probably though take my left handed lace on check piece and stock extension to help fit a rifle to me. I am left handed. Do much prefer a lh rifle, but have used a rh rifle often enough I can live with it | |||
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With Canada’s arms embargo with Zim, lots of guys get around it but for my first trip other I chose the Rental route. Buzz had his Blaser and a Winchester model 70 .375hh. I have a longer LOP so the Winchester fit the best and was very happy with it. I shoot well on paper but my first couple times I pulled my shots to the left on my kudu and impala. Re sighted it and for sure it was me not the rifle. The other rifle was Buzz’s 7x75 Brno. A very nice rifle aswell, and has that double trigger photo’s above. It has a good story too with Justin owning it previously. And can attest to that hair trigger hahaha. My wounded impala we tracked for awhile and only caught the odd glimpse. Finally when we had an open view, I was too excited and after I got on the sticks and then set that trigger I barely put my finger on the trigger and it went off a foot or two above the impalas back. Oops!! But all said and done I would do it again and use rental rifles again. But I now own a double in .450 No2 so I’m practicing with it and would only want to hunt DG with it for sure. | |||
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I have always taken my own rifles with me, no matter the hassle. I enjoy shooting my game with my own rifle. And, it gives me memories back home with that same firearm. As to renting or using a camp rifle, the only time that I did was on a combined South African and Zimbabwe hunt a few years back with PHs Charl van Rooyen and John Hunt. I took two of my double rifles for the Zimbabwe portion of the hunt and left them in the gun safe at Africa Sky, while I hunted Cape Grysbok in the Eastern Cape with Charl. I used Charl's very nice 243 with a suppressor and it was great. Later he, I and his wife Erika went to the Karoo where he shot the grand slam of springbok with the same rifle. I then flew back to Joburg, subsequently flying to Bulawayo with my doubles and hunted with PH John Hunt and PH Graham Mayger on Bishopstone. | |||
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Has anyone traveled on Qatar Airways connecting through Doha with rifles? DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Never mind. I found an excellent post in the Travel forum. It is a couple years old, but is a great place to start. DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Re the comments made on triggers, my biggest problem is with very light triggers that seem to be everyones favourite these days. I shoot left handed, but thanks to a dislocation of my left wrist 16 odd years ago, sensitivity in my left hand is kind of monochrome rather than full colour. I actually prefer a heavier trigger as my trigger finger is not sensitive enough to deal with a light trigger. I use the squeeze method as taught by an army rifle instructor when I was a cadet learning on a No8 and No4 lee enfield rifles. I have set triggers on two rifles. I never use them as simply cannot tell when they go off. I use a borrowed Blaser last year with a very light trigger. So light that I could only put trigger finger anywhere near the trigger when sights were perfectly aligned, which rather upsets the rhythm of the shot. | |||
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Set triggers are great for running shots, I like them, but for hunting I'll keep it simple and a good crisp 3 or even crisp 4 pound suits me fine, 3 on a bolt and 4 on a double. I don't like creep however..For DG is easy for some chaps to crank one off with too light triggers, seen that more than a few times.. I,ve seen pretty trashy lenders in some camps, I have seen some PH with pretty trashy rifles and Ive seen PH that couldn't shoot worth a flip and visa versa...You notice a lot over the years, but for the most part things are good in hunting camps. African camps are head and shoulders better than US camps on the whole, those guys got it down pat.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I’ve said it before and I will repeat it. If your outfitter has poor quality loaners, you are hunting with the wrong-i.e.low quality outfitter. If he scrimps on loaner rifles, where else is he cutting corners? You should ask up front about loaner/rental rifles if you intend to use one. If it’s something you never heard of, keep looking. And just as important, ask about optics. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Although 95% of the time I take my own firearms, on occasion I've used various 12 ga shotguns and rifles from .22-250 - .375 H&H. Having proper shotgun ammo for ducks & geese is the only draw back, however lead still kills waterfowl with great efficiency. Field loads of #4 & #5 shot aren't ideal on Spurwing geese but over decoys it will work. As for the various rifles, fit and scope adjustment were the only issues and that was dealt with at the range. Never had any problems with function. I highly agree with Charlie64; airlines and their various BS attitudes towards hunters/firearms with rising "fees" has made more of my friends/clients resort to requesting camp rifles.         Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Well, if I can't take my double rifles, then I ain't going! I guess I'll simply have to do my hunting in the states, and till Jo Biden gets in office and gets the 2nd amendment taken out of our constitution and wants to melt down all firearms. Can anyone here imagine watching a fine double rifle being crushed, and dumped in scrap iron pile? I would rather drop mine in the ocean than to let it be crushed.  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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A reminder of the stockpiles of confiscated ivory being wastefully torched. | |||
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Well, recently passed Canadian law calls for that for all above .577 caliber. | |||
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A good point in today's environment of information and competition between outfitters. That said, I remember the old days when PHs and outfitters were of the old school and simply ignorant of what was available out there. Many personally used old rifles bought in the fifties with dusty 4 x or even 2 x scopes and extra-heavy triggers. They had never handloaded a round in their lives and assumed that all rifles were like this. They were good hunters and hosts but it would never have occurred to them that there was anything wrong with their rifles and assumed that the visiting hunter would think the same way.
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. Used to hunt on a farm north of Thabazimbi, when we lived full time in RSA. Small farm but great for bird hunts with the pointers and spaniels. Anyhow, farmer had an old Sako in .308 that I used as a loaner gun. I spent one weekend there and stripped down the rifle, cleaned it in and out, oiled the wood and screwed and glued the butt plate back on and the ivory cap, cleaned up the checkering and cleaned up the optics. Test fired the rifle - it had held the aim perfectly and on Sunday when I left the farm, I handed the gun back to the farmer. He hardly recognised it and put it in his safe telling me that it was now too good and too clean to use as a farm gun and I would get the .223 next visit! Super accurate that .308, would have loved to have purchased it. . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | |||
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