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Simple question requiring a simple answer. Are you saying that the above photographs of failed R-93 bolts are 100% caused by reloader error?

And if so do you have definitive proof?

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Originally posted by surestrike:

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Simple question requiring a simple answer. Are you saying that the above photographs of failed R-93 bolts are 100% caused by reloader error?

And if so do you have definitive proof?

Tygersman,

By your lack of coherent reply can we assume that you are unable to provide any factual evidence as to the why and how of these failures?

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Originally posted by icebug:

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

If that is a picture of a woman that gives you wood, I don't blame you for finding Blaser rifles ugly

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Originally posted by surestrike:
Oh...

You were chastising me,that's what it was, I thought you were simply rationalizing your uniformed and poor choice of sporting rifles.
And once again please feel free to shoot anything you like. Just like I will. BTW why aren't you using the vaunted holy trinity of rifles, St Blaser, on your DG hunts?

Seems like a fan boy like yourself should show a bit more confidence in his unimpeachable product of choice?

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Originally posted by tygersman:

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by tygersman:
No one is telling you what to believe. You're entitled to believe the sky is green if you so desire.

Not touching a Blaser ever = no experience at all. You're right, I discount commentary from the truly uninformed. But they're still entitled to hold these "beliefs" based on Internet hearsay and what Uncle Eddie's first cousin's, grass cutter's nanny overheard at the Dollar General.

If a documented, potentially fatal design defect is simply succumbing to the incredible stupidity of people, then every knife on the market has a documented potentially fatal design design defect. Better make that every gun too.

I don't even have a Blaser anymore, but I am most amused at the idea that Blaser's are ticking time bombs or that it's such a chore to close the bolt adequately.

I don't need to shoot one to hold the personal opinion that they are ugly. No amount of performance is going to change that for me. If you like them, have at it. You're not going to change my opinion of their looks and once a gun is determined to be accurate, functional, and reliable (obviously the most important aspect), appearance then enters the equation for me. Tell you what, if you want me to hunt and shoot with a gun that I think is ugly, you buy it for me with your money. I'll stick it in the safe for awhile, then put it in the classifieds! Deal?

Todd: Since you readily admit that your objection is to the Blasers' appearance, my comments weren't intended for you, but instead for the closet conspiracy theorists.

And while I won't be buying you any guns, I might buy you a beer at DSC, maybe even with my money.

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Originally posted by icebug:

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

If that is a picture of a woman that gives you wood, I don't blame you for finding Blaser rifles ugly

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Originally posted by tygersman:

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Originally posted by surestrike:
Oh...

You were chastising me,that's what it was, I thought you were simply rationalizing your uniformed and poor choice of sporting rifles.
And once again please feel free to shoot anything you like. Just like I will. BTW why aren't you using the vaunted holy trinity of rifles, St Blaser, on your DG hunts?

Seems like a fan boy like yourself should show a bit more confidence in his unimpeachable product of choice?

Surefire: we've probably passed the point of showing our asses and embarrassing ourselves, so let me be the first to apologize if I've offended.

To answer your last question, I had a R93 Safari 375, which I simply found to be too heavy for caliber. It was a great shooter, and I probably should have kept it. Too many toys and not enough to time.

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Todd

Have you ever shot a Blaser R 93???

I see you are in North Texas, I am In East Texas. When the weather gets good, I will make you an offer. You can come to my range, and you can shoot a Blaser R 93 in 308, 300 Win Mag, and 375 H&H. You will shoot only factory ammo, and if the rifle "blows up" I will have enough duck tape to patch you up, I was a Pre Med student, once upon a time... ...

If you survive the trip to the range, we can have BBQ at the house, drink Whisky, or whatever, and have a great time...
Then you can give your comments on the Blaser, after shooting one...

You can bring whatever rifles you want, and you and I will shoot them as well...
A good time will be had by all...

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Todd

I offer this as a nonconfrontational fun event for both of us.

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Shall I assemble random internet photographs of non-Blaser kabooms and post them for you to explain?

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Originally posted by tygersman:
rifles, St Blaser, on your DG hunts?

Surefire: we've probably passed the point of showing our asses and embarrassing ourselves, so let me be the first to apologize if I've offended.

To answer your last question, I had a R93 Safari 375, which I simply found to be too heavy for caliber. It was a great shooter, and I probably should have kept it. Too many toys and not enough to time.

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BTW one thing we do have in common is the .404 a lovely all around DG cartridge if I may say so myself

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Originally posted by Daghaboy:
In September 2012 my client was hunting buffalo with a Blaser R8 Safari in calibre 0.458Lott at Omay Zimbabwe. He got a buffalo with a one shot kill. The rifle worked perfectly and he was very satisfied.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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BTW one thing we do have in common is the .404 a lovely all around DG cartridge if I may say so myself

For the 21st century, the great 404 has been re-born as the 375/404.

The best big and dangerous game cartridge I have ever shot

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Originally posted by MLG:
Mauser M03 solves all these Blaser anxieties .........

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Walters problems were shooter error.

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Originally posted by Grumulkin:
ANY gun can blow up with a malfunction or shooter error. Here is a link to a test in which rifles were shot with an occluded barrel. Notice how the R 93 did not blow up in the shooter's face.

Rifle Burst Test

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Gentlemen,

We had a German gunsmith visiting us a couple of years back, and he said he know of at least a couple fo dozen occasions of the Blaser R93 blowing up.

I have no way of knowing how true that is.

But, I have my own theory about what might happen, from seeing people shooting their Blasers here.

I see some people who tend to just push the bolt forward slightly, and let it close by itself. We have had misfires sometimes when this is done, and, frankly, that got me scared.

So I always ask whoever is shooting a Blaser here to make sure that they push the bolt forward.

This, of course, is no fault of the rifle, but is an operator error.

Trouble is, it is very easy to do, and I am not really sure might happen when a sensetive primer hit when the bolt is not fully closed.

Though the Blaser is not my cup of tea, first and foremost I dislike any bolt rifle that uses a push feed action! That being said, I’m sure the push/pull bolt is probably about the fastest bolt rifle in the world to get off shot after shot very quickly with the rifle at the shoulder.

The fact is any rifle that will be used on any type of dangerous game or for hunting in country where dangerous game may be encountered, should be as simple to operate as it can be designed. The first thing in that design would be a CRF action if a bolt is the action.
It seems any rifle that is so touchy that it must be worked PERFECTLY every time or it fails to fire or blows open, is not my idea of a well designed tool for hunting of dangerous game by mere humans! When high numbers of misfires and other problems are encountered because of improper handling tells me the system is far too accidental malfunction prone, and I want nothing to do with a design of that type! The fact that I consider the Blaser bolt rifle to be extremely FUGLY could be over looked if it worked better, but unfortunately they are malfunction prone and FUGLY as well!

..................................................................All only my opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it, but is there if you care to think about what that opinion is saying!

.................Hold your fire till I get my foxhole dug! ..................

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