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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Grumulkin:

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Originally posted by butchloc:
walter likes them

And, it's one of Saeed's favorites.

Walter had all of us rolling on the ground laughing our heads off when he was trying to show us how accurate and fast his Blaser was.

We were in Zimbabwe, as we drove along, we saw a nice warthog.

The episode went something like this:

Roy "Walter, come, get your rifle and shoot that warthog!"

Walter "Yes yes, I am coming, I am coming" as jumped off the truck with his Blaser.

Alan had the video camera, and I had my still camera to make sure we have this historic event for future generations to enjoy.

The warthog was standing among a lot of dead tree trunks on the ground, and was hard to see because he blended in very well.

Roy put the shooting sticks up, and Walter got onto them.

But no shot came!

Someone said "shoot the bloody thing! He is not going to stand there all day!"

Walter "Where is he? I cannot see him!"

Roy "THERE, standing by that log!"
Walter "Which log? I see many logs and none look like a warhog!"

Some of the new members here might think this is something I am making up. But, I can assure you that this is just a normal hunt with Walter.

The warthog moved, and Walter saw him.

Walter fired at the warthog, missing him.

The warthog moved a few feet and stood looking back, probably laughing as he looked at someone pointing some funny contraption at him.

Roy "You missed him! Shoot again, and don't take all day about it!"

Walter fires again, and hits the warthog.

It was only wounded.

And Walter was trying his best to show us how quickly he can load that Blaser.

He pulls the bolt back far enough to eject the empty, but not far enough to pick a new round from the magazine.

He closes the bolt on an empty chamber.

CLICK!

Walter works the bolt so fast now, trying to shoot again.

He works teh wbolt again.

CLICK!

Now he has worked himself into a real lather!

Works the bolt again.

CLICK.

He picks up the ejected roud and says "Saeed's ammo. It does not work!"

I pick up the round he angrily dropped on teh ground.

There is no indent on the primer.

His new fangled Blaser misfired - I think in his haste to load it he did not push the bolt far enough forward.

Eventually, he maneged to kill the warthog.

I was lying on the ground, because I was laughing so much I was not able to stand up.

Walter proved to us how good the Blaser is in a sticky situation.

From that day on, I decided the Blaser is definitely not for me.

I will stick with a normal bolt action rifle.

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Originally posted by Philip A.:
Grumulkin, the R93 handles pressure very well. That's something that Blaser has always been very happy to point out.

Bolts didn't blow because of excess pressure. Bolts blow back in the shooter's face when gases from a ruptured case or whatever else make their way between the bolt body and the locking fingers, while at the same time exerting pressure on the tip of the fingers, pushing them down the slope of the locking cone.

The gases blow the fingers out like a balloon, and the tips (which happen to be locking the bolt in the barrel's conical locking recess...) retract along the cone of the bolt head, and the corresponding conical surface of the barrel recess. Freeing the whole thing, and... Ka-Booom.

End of the bolt-in-face mystery.

And reason for the complete redesign of the R8 bolt head: there is no cone any more, the fingers' tips are now forming a ring almost at 90deg from the bolt body, and they have been reinforced in their midsection.

Give a look. Check a longitudinal cross-section drawing. Think about the way it is designed, check pictures of blown bolts, figure the whole thing out... And here it is: a flawed design. And a manufacturer who tries to sweep the cat's poop under the carpet: "The R8 is soo much better than the R93, look, it's got a detachable magazine! And a thumbhole if you want! And plastic all over! Fantastic! What did you say? The bolt redesign? Never mind, that's just cosmetics, nothing to say about that, it's just an irrelevant minor component..."

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Todd, (or was it Turd?), you're not welcome in the Blaser camp anyway :-)

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Originally posted by Philip A.:
Give a look. Check a longitudinal cross-section drawing. Think about the way it is designed, check pictures of blown bolts, figure the whole thing out... And here it is: a flawed design.

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Originally posted by pagosawingnut:
Todd doesn't have the right to poo poo on someting he is not capable of understanding Jon. What he is capable of understanding is that every negative post is increasing the cost of his reloading supplies. You can't change some peoples minds. I gave up trying. He's a lost cause. I like the way the R8 feels well enough that I ordered a .375 barrel today (with an extra trigger group in case mine becomes lost or falls out) Pay him no mind.

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Originally posted by jorge:
I wouldn't do her even with shootaway's Johnson!

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Originally posted by jorge:
That "nothing happened" happened to quite a few folks on hunting shows this past season.

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Originally posted by Blaserguy:

Circa 1911 modern warfare, remember the year that the evolution of the firearm peaked with no need to advancement.
The world is not flat and things change even if we don't want it to.
We don't have to embrace change but to argue the merits of progressive thinking in seeing where we can take the advancement of the firearm over time has brought us some very interesting developments. John Browning for one I would have loved to have taken with to see how he thinks.
We do not all have minds that are open to change but it can be comical at times to see how people think or how they want everyone to think there way. It doesn't work that way. For some the Internet must be a frustrating place because they cant talk over the conversation to get there point accross. Some have to go along with the heard and some make it up as they go.
Guns are very dangerous if you obstruct the barrels or load the wrong powder. Firearms are not for the careless no matter the brand. There are so many agendas by people out there I get tired head trying to follow those that are probably intelligent when they lump themselves in with all the normal idiots. Eventually they all start to sound the same muddled mess.
If Blaser ever comes up online it's like trying to explain the world is actually round. I have found if you have "Blaser" in your online name you sort out the bullies in the crowed pretty quick. Times do change but small thinking will be around forever

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Originally posted by tygersman:
No one is telling you what to believe. You're entitled to believe the sky is green if you so desire.

Not touching a Blaser ever = no experience at all. You're right, I discount commentary from the truly uninformed. But they're still entitled to hold these "beliefs" based on Internet hearsay and what Uncle Eddie's first cousin's, grass cutter's nanny overheard at the Dollar General.

If a documented, potentially fatal design defect is simply succumbing to the incredible stupidity of people, then every knife on the market has a documented potentially fatal design design defect. Better make that every gun too.

I don't even have a Blaser anymore, but I am most amused at the idea that Blaser's are ticking time bombs or that it's such a chore to close the bolt adequately.

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... it can be comical at times to see how people think or how they want everyone to think there way.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by tygersman:
No one is telling you what to believe. You're entitled to believe the sky is green if you so desire.

Not touching a Blaser ever = no experience at all. You're right, I discount commentary from the truly uninformed. But they're still entitled to hold these "beliefs" based on Internet hearsay and what Uncle Eddie's first cousin's, grass cutter's nanny overheard at the Dollar General.

If a documented, potentially fatal design defect is simply succumbing to the incredible stupidity of people, then every knife on the market has a documented potentially fatal design design defect. Better make that every gun too.

I don't even have a Blaser anymore, but I am most amused at the idea that Blaser's are ticking time bombs or that it's such a chore to close the bolt adequately.

I don't need to shoot one to hold the personal opinion that they are ugly. No amount of performance is going to change that for me. If you like them, have at it. You're not going to change my opinion of their looks and once a gun is determined to be accurate, functional, and reliable (obviously the most important aspect), appearance then enters the equation for me. Tell you what, if you want me to hunt and shoot with a gun that I think is ugly, you buy it for me with your money. I'll stick it in the safe for awhile, then put it in the classifieds! Deal?

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Pondoro:
Blaser seems to have been selling an unsound design, with an inbuilt disaster potential in the R93...

All complaints have always been vigorously denied by Blaser....they have presisely the same arrogant approach as the Bavaria boat manufacurer, denying all complaints while keels were falling off their boats during sailing..

I will not deal with any of these products, whatsoever..