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Ok Ok! The rifle was bought by Dr. Fridtjof Nansen, in 1893, for the grand sum of 28 pounds Sterling. He embarked on a three year journey to the North Pole. In january 1894, he was in a row boat with two of his sailors, trying to shoot seals for meat. He lost his footing, and the rifle fell overboard. Exact location is 79 54 21.72 N, 59 46 55.41 E. the depth was 8 fathoms. He felt so bad about it, they went back to their ship, the FRAM, and got some tools to dridge for it. They went at it for the rest of the day, until darkness fell, and gave up. So, as far as I know, that rifle has not been recovered yet, and all one has to do is go pick it up! Let me get out of the way, I don't want to be crushed in the stampede  Good luck to you all! | |||
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Hmmmmmmm Thanks Saeed, but I think I pass on this one. Franz Josef land is not that easy to access, even today. It is too far away for most helicopters and you need a nuclear icebreaker to go there. Then, the restoration of a rifle that has had 114 years on the sea floor is more than I can handle even if it perhaps would be legal to get it, as compared to the illegal actions to get it, if it was around Svalbard.... Sincerely Daniel | |||
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Took a look on google earth. I guess I'll go pull the canoe off the truck. It's a little farther out than my supplies will get me. What condition would that gun be in after sitting on the sea floor that long. If you found it and took it to Holland and Holland would they beat you to death? Thats some serious pitting. Unlike some I'm glad to still have my left nut  WOODY Everyone is allowed an opinion, even if its wrong. | |||
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I'd guess that if you found it and took it to H&H and it was anywhere near working condition then H&H would swap it for a brand new one. Think of the PR they'd get from one of their rifles lying on the sea bed for that long and then working when recovered. In fact if H&H had any sense they'd get one of these bunny hugging moan a minute TV channels to fund a trip to recover the rifle. That way we could all go on the Greenpeace boat and we could save the world the whole way there by farting into plastic bags and using them to power the ship. | |||
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I have a friend who is involved in a syndicate that is recovering P-38's from the ice in Greenland. They use steam to go 400 feet down and carefully lift up the planes. Several years ago, one was recovered (not by this group, I believe?) and it sold for a huge profit. I think they are projected to make about 20 million this effort for seven planes (one will be a B-17 for parts). Saeed, I'll give them the coordinates and your good wishes. Seals with a .577? Why didn't he use a .45/70? Wouldn't he have gotten more penetration? JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Thank you, Saeed. A deals a deal. If you need coordinates for the location of the subject of my bid, please let me know. Also, if you need some pinking shears to collect your prize, drop me a line and I'll make sure you receive a pair. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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As a Navy diver in a previous century, it's tempting!...especially as it's realatively shallow. But.....as I can attest to "tresures" found it other waters...those barnacles will be a bitch to remove! Gary DRSS NRA Lifer SCI DSC | |||
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Did, Walter put you up to this one ? Well done you had everyone going.  Frederik Cocquyt I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good. | |||
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Quite frankly I neither need nor want a 577 double and given the opportunity to get one for free I would definitely sell it and finance one last trip to Zimbabwe to hunt one more time,preferably for Lion. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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And here is was ready to offer up flight instruction for the whole family. Gee's we all bit big time on this one. | |||
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There's a winner!  OMG!-- my bow is "pull-push feed" - how dreadfully embarrasing!!!!! | |||
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The "Double Rifle Gays" really had an orgy over that one.  | |||
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I think this is the place where the 577NE double is resting, and is just about the only place in the world I would not go to get it! ..........   ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I sent "Prescious" over to crap on your lawn...  | |||
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I would give the rifle too my father. He has dreamed of owning a double his entire life. He is making a trip to Africa with me this summer both of us for the first time and I would like nothing more than to present him with the gift. | |||
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Saeed Are you sure that it was NOT a 45/70 that went overboard, as if it was, there are a number of good swimmers agaist the tide whom would give their left ventricle to get it and use on cape buff (-: Cheers, Peter | |||
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Over penetration, that is the issue here. Over penetration has always been a big issue in the arctic which is why people heading that way tended to go for the less powerful cartridges. In those days it was considered very unsporting to shoot a seal and then later find out that you had badly wounded a polar bear standing only 900 yards beyond the seal. After lots of accidents of this nature the trusty .45/70 was abandoned and polar explorers were forced to trust their lives to the .577. This is absolutely the only reason why, to this very day, the 45/70 is considered unsuitable for polar bear and other large animals which might be standing in front of something that could be wounded as the result of over penetration. | |||
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 ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Saeed. The forum needs a bit of humor once in awhile. And I admit I fell for this one...not overboard, thank God.  "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Good joke! Quite a feeding frenzie going on there for a while. | |||
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Dr. Nansen went on to decribe how sad he felt for loosing that rifle, and how safe the seals were because of this accident. The impression I got was that this was probably the most accurate rifle he had. Imagine the historical value one might get out of this if it was recovered. | |||
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I say we send Walter on "a mission" with a film crew! 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express  If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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 [/QUOTE]Holy cow...the Judge is showing some age...must be the booze! ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Hey Roscoe: That's not me. It's my second or third wife... I can't remember? I think she just discovered that her alimony check bounced. Actually, that dog picture made me happy that I don't hunt dogs, just leopards, lions, buffalo and elephants. | |||
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What a bunch of wimps we have today Dr. nansen went there in a wooden ship, powered by wind sail, and tiny motor. When they managed to get 8 knots, they thought they were on warp speed! | |||
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Pray for Global warming. | |||
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Its not even april yet but it was fun to see so many okes on their knees here is a special for you ive got handy andy for only $1 so that all the brown rings can be washed of   "Buy land they have stopped making it"- Mark Twain | |||
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No pain no gain. Have Walter deliver it. I will give him a home for a year. Just think how much peace you will have. Throw in some ammo and I keep him a year and a half. JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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dr Nansen had many fine guns that he used for lots of hunting and shooting, he had a custom Krag built on the danish action in .45-90 that he had a Winchester A5 scope on for lots of varius chores. He also had many other fine guns, unfortunately his krag was stolen some years ago and hasnt been recovered yet again. | |||
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Not uncommon for Saeed to offer anyone a nice rifle if he will swim the Rhuaha river at night.. I have had such an opertunity, but passed... will a flame thrower work under water??? Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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It will if Bola Bola had his spell on you | |||
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I would make the extreme sacrifice. I would delete my avatar Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Fjold, Then, as a fellow lefty, I'll claim the avatar...although I've been divorced for so long I don't know what I'd do with it. .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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Fjold: Please do not threaten any action that might cause you to remove your avatar. Although I believe that the AR readers would raise enough money for a new H&H .577 N.E., don't make us do it! I have to feed my babies. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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At least the location solves the croc problem. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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I am sooo glad I was out hunting when this thread started. I didn't promise anything dear or foolish and got to see all the fun on my return! Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Moral of the story: "Never take any firearm onto a boat that you are not willing to store forever afterwards in Davy Jones's deep blue gun safe." There is a really big and interesting gun collection at the bottom of the sea, not to mention most rivers! Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Always inquire as to the conditions of your prize | |||
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Saeed I would do what ever you asked... Sincerely, Steve | |||
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Congratulations Saeed. You have set the new AR Record for Suck Up Posts on a Single Thread. Better put Steve (I would do what ever you asked) Lefforge in your Date book for when you visit Wyoming. I knew a girl that like that in College and it was worth the effort. Gator A Proud Member of the Obamanation "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them." George Orwell | |||
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