I will come out of the closet and say I really enjoy videos or TV shows that deal with plains game more than dangerous game hunts. I would love to see more unigue species or different members of the species Eland, Gazelles, Hartebeest,Kob, korrigum, Kudus, Lechwe, Nyalas, Reedbucks, Sitatungas, Suni, Tiang, Topi, Waterbuck, Wildebeest....

Question:
Do you prefer to watch DVD's or television shows with focus on hunting plains game or dangerous games?

Choices:
Prefer Plains Game
Prefer Dangerous Game
Prefer a mix of the two

 

I prefer to watch shows / DVDs with DG hunts, but don't mind a few PG thrown in. I don't particularly care for the RSA archery hunts conducted over concrete water holes in sunken permanent hides. I don't necessarily have anything against that type of hunt, but just don't personally care to spend any time watching it on TV.

I enjoy watching exotic PG hunts i.e. Bongo and LDE. Stanard PG hunts in Namibia and SA aren't interesting to me or very exciting to watch. Dangerous game hunts are always a treat

I just completed a tabulation of all of Mark Sullivan's videos for a detailed report on AR within a week or so. After seeing 10 films, I must state I lost all interest in plains game. I like all of you, have shot my share of plains game but most DG is shot close up and that is what I have to do anyway with the doubles I hunt and shoot with. And, I guess doubles are at home shooting DG that would add to my vote. I hate to say it, but shooting PG over a water hole or at 250 yards with a lightning fast magnum just does not turn my crank. I echo what Todd said about SA plains game.
Just my opinion, don't take offense.
Cheers,
Cal
PS. There are lots of good DG scenes in many hunting films but a bunch of less than exciting PG is fitted between them. Of course, if it is about content, most hunting in Africa is for PG, certainly in SA, so it's understandable so much PG is filmed.

Once you have gotten up close and whacked an elephant, elk hunting just doesnt have the appeal it used to

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Originally posted by Full Roar:
Once you have gotten up close and whacked an elephant, elk hunting just doesnt have the appeal it used to

Ruined me for deer and elk. I still go to be with friends. But for the sport, it's just not there anymore. Thankfully I thoroughly enjoy waterfowl still.

Wow. I still LOVE elk hunting. Hell, I went coyote hunting tonight after a bit of long range practice in the desert.

I love watching well done PG videos; I was enthralled with the old Sportsmen on Film shows - they were mostly PG hunts.

Personally, what matters to me the most is the hunter; I don't care to see Boddington shoot another buffalo, Makris shoot another elephant, or Shockey shoot another moose. But show me Cal Pappas with his double whacking an ele...well, you got a show on your hands fellas.

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Originally posted by Full Roar:
Once you have gotten up close and whacked an elephant, elk hunting just doesnt have the appeal it used to

How true!
My friends on the east coast don't understand my lack of desire to shoot a small white tail--even with one of my coveted double rifles. After hunting brown bear, lion, buffalo, hippo, and water buffalo, deer just don't get me excited.
Cal

As a novice I find DG videos more entertaining than PG because they portray more of a HUNT. A DG video is usually a long, exiting stalk with a speedy end where as a PG video is usually short clips of people taking long range shots which doesn't take the hunt to the couch.

Does any one have a link to what you think is a good PG HUNT?

Well, I also LOVE hunting buffalo with my double rifle .500 Nitro Express. And for good practice, I hunt pigs and wild dogs and (hopefully soon) wild donkeys and feral cattle... but that's beside the point. Yep, I do enjoy watching Carter / Sullivan / Charlton. But I also enjoy hunting plainsgame - I've not done enough of that yet - and watching videos of it. I love impala and kudu and warthog, and I want to hunt bushbuck. And my dream is to someday do it with my ancient Rigby .275. I will get just as excited about those little animals as I am about the buffalo in backyard.

I love both!
But I think my preference is a bit towards PG. Especially when it's those animals seldom seen on film.
I do feel though that most people enjoy DG mostly.
I made a PG DVD last year, and if I'm to judge from the sales numbers only, not a lot of people are interested.

Hi Ben
Had a client last week take a great Reedbuck and a Caracal with an original Rigby in 275.
It is one of the most beautiful rifles I have ever seen, real work of art.

Maybe we could get the two of you down here at the same time for a "Double Rigby-Double Bushbuck" hunt.
Have got great bushbuck available so let me know and we can put one aside for you. Thomas is alsoin my opinion one of SA's top taxidermists so we can get him to mount it for you if you like.
Chat soon
Ian

One of the main reasons I believe that causes people to choose DG over PG is that the PG stuff is shot in a cookie cutter fashion and shows just the exterior of the hunt. Now on a DG film the exterior of the hunt is damn exciting.
If there was more filming of the intricacies of the PG experience and more one on one time taken to look into the PH and his teams methods in obtaining trophies there would be much more interest value.

For instance a hunt in the bushveld is just that if the camera never takes the time to stop and figure out what is going through the Ph's head. If the camera never looks down and examines a track and explains what has been seen.

The guys need to spend less time mounting up numbers of species per minute and really look at what it takes to deliver a great trophy after an exciting stalk.

I have a little saying that applies no matter what you are hunting..."if its not exciting then you are doing it wrong".

If more hunters "owned their hunt" there would be no shortage of great PG films to back it up.

Good luck to you all

Ian, that sounds great! Congratulations to your client, too!

I voted for a combination of both PG, and DG!

No matter what animal is being hunted I can’t stand the rack-um stack-um slide show type films that do nothing but skip from one shot on one animal to a shot on another animal, without seeing the whole HUNT.

Whether it is dangerous game or plains game I want to see the HUNT not just shooting. Like Todd the cement pond with a buried dungeon type blind just ain’t hunting IMO! Shooting animals from 400 yds from the back of the hunting car simply doesn’t do it for me!

What I want to see is camp life, with gun talk and interviews with REAL PHs who have “been to see the elephant” so to speak, and the stalk of the animal no matter what it happens to be. I like things in films like the ones by Boddington, Buzz, and Ivan who all
show some of the vast knowledge that makes a REAL professional hunter and/or client that is not afraid to get dirty crawling on their bellies to get close to an animal to make a great shot. I want to see the hunting car get extracted when it gets stuck, and the villagers come to a dead elephant for the much needed meat to feed their families.

IMO, the hunt is far more than simply shooting a record book trophy!
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Personally I don't watch a lot of outdoor TV. I switch it on when I'm on the treadmill sometimes but I don't record anything so I pretty much watch whatever pops up and most of it is not that great. How about the gold shows and tournament fishing in the UK? Wow!

As for what I'd prefer to see I'd be just as happy looking at a program where a sitatunga, Mountain nyala, Abyssinian greater kudu, bongo, Beisa Oryx or something a little exotic was hunted as to see another elephant or buffalo whacked. I never got bitten hard by the DG bug. Most of my hunting over the last 25 years has been directed at hunting new species to me and having a different experience so that's what I like to watch.

Mark

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As for what I'd prefer to see I'd be just as happy looking at a program where a sitatunga, Mountain nyala, Abyssinian greater kudu, bongo, Beisa Oryx or something a little exotic was hunted as to see another elephant or buffalo whacked.

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Originally posted by Full Roar:
Once you have gotten up close and whacked an elephant, elk hunting just doesnt have the appeal it used to

Amen! That's why I'm perfectly happy to chase squirrels these days.


Mad Dog

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Originally posted by Mad Dog:

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Originally posted by Full Roar:
Once you have gotten up close and whacked an elephant, elk hunting just doesnt have the appeal it used to

Amen! That's why I'm perfectly happy to chase squirrels these days.


Mad Dog

Brave man there, I tell you! Maybe, and I do mean maybe but ONLY if Buzz is backing me up!

I've only been to Africa once but the most exciting stuff for me was getting within 30 yards of Blue Wildebeest and hearing them thunder by. It was spectacular. I can't wait for the day to hunt Cape Buff but I know that it will be a couple years away. I'm not sure I can wait that long...but the truth is that it's really about my wife...she wants to go to! LOL! I'm not sure my nerves will let me handle watching her going after DG!

I enjoy DG hunting very much. Plains game is fun but not something I go out of my way to do anymore. Like Todd I enjoy watching DG with a smattering of PG mixed in. Ditto on the RSA concrete water hole thing. I've done it in the past it is what it is I have no desire to do more of it and no desire to watch it either.

I have to say however that all of the African hunting I've done has made me appreciate our vast public and private hunting lands and the animals they have to offer right here in America even more.

God bless the USA!

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Brave man there, I tell you! Maybe, and I do mean maybe but ONLY if Buzz is backing me up!
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Last time I was in Zim as I understand it (I could be somewhat wrong) Buzz had an elephant hunt go a little wrong and a camera man got run over by a cow ele and banged up a bit before Buzz stopped it with a second shot. I think that is why he traded in the 416 Rem and is now shooting a DR 500. What is that old saying....Bring enough gun? Regardless I think Buzz is the type that rarely makes a miscalculation, a true pro and would be a pleasure to hunt with. I certainly plan on hunting ele's with him one day just to say I did. I'm betting its next year

1. Cape Buffalo
2. Elephant
3. Hippo
4. Eland
5. TIE Kudu & Sable

The only PG I find interesting is Eland, Sable & Kudu.

The cats are okay. Lion & leopard hunts that I have watched do not get me excited.

PG would be fun to hunt, but is not exciting on TV. I couldn't be bothered getting a DVD that had only PG hunts on it.

Rainer Jösch, Mark Sullivan, Ivan Carter, Buzz Charlton, Craig Boddington, I've got movies from all those guys.
Love them all, regardless of the 'style' of hunting, as long as Cape Buffalo or Elephant is involved.

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Originally posted by surestrike:
I enjoy DG hunting very much. Plains game is fun but not something I go out of my way to do anymore. Like Todd I enjoy watching DG with a smattering of PG mixed in. Ditto on the RSA concrete water hole thing. I've done it in the past it is what it is I have no desire to do more of it and no desire to watch it either.

I have to say however that all of the African hunting I've done has made me appreciate our vast public and private hunting lands and the animals they have to offer right here in America even more.

God bless the USA!

Right on Surestrike. I still admire your DIY Colorado mountain goat hunt. And for sheer adventure, nothing beats a packstring hunt for elk or moose in North America. In fact, now that I think about it, I think I enjoy those shows more than Africa, for the simple fact more of the details of the hunt are there - the same qualities that make Saeed's videos so entertaining.