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I need advice picking a good day pack for hunting in Africa. I need something to carry spare ammo, binoculars, water, snack/lunch, rain gear, camera, etc. This will be for mainly spot and stalk hunting or occasionally hunting from a hide/blind.
 
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I have settled on the TexasHuntCo THE pack. It's more expensive than he typical Bass Pro small hunting pack but it carries well and is very useful for the allowable carry on luggage bag. Plus, it is very rugged and I expect it to last for more years than I'll be hunting.

Note that it is usually left in the bakkie and not carried on stalks. Binocs, pocket camera, and ammo is about all that is carried then. In the pack on the truck is bug repellent, larger camera, batteries, more ammo, warm hat, gloves, sunblock etc.


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Whoa, way too much stuff. Where are the staff? I just wear a vest (replaces jacket in early morning) for some candy/gum. Binos around neck and in shirt pocket (pocket model (10X25)) ammo, knife and multi tool on belt. 2X4" first aide kit in vest pocket and glass wipes. Wear gloves. Camera in vest pocket.
 
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I've used the same Lowepro padded camera bag for the last 25 years or so and other than fading from black to grey, it's still going strong.

The padding is a great help when it comes to protecting delicate items such as cameras etc. tu2

See their products at www.lowepro.com

If I were buying another one now, it'd probably be this one: http://products.lowepro.com/pr...Zone-100,1934,18.htm






 
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The use of a day pack for cary on has worked for me. I have used one from Croked Horn for years in and out of the woods and it has held up great. But it is camo.

I just purchased a C Ruck from Red Oxx, that I plan to use in Zim next year for carry on and as a truck bag.

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For Africa I usually use an Australian made canvas backpack. But since Courteney is shutting down it Zim manufacture, I decided to purchase one of their game skin bags, not bad.
 
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Oday,

That pack looks a lot bigger than what I need.

Jagter, my hunts are low cost, low profile. The PH, 1 tracker, and me. So I need to find a small/medium size day pack/truck bag to carry a small bit of misc. gear.

The C Ruck that HBH recommended is likewise a bit bigger than I need

Brazos_Jack
 
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Brazos Jack,

Red Oxx makes a smaller one - Mini Ruck, I dont have one of those but it is on their web page.

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Just used a new Red-Oxx Rucksack in CAR.. Loved that thing. The perfect backpack. Use it as my carry on as well. Tough as nails. Red Oxx.com


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I use a Badlands Superday while hunting in the states. It will hold everything you need for a full day out and it’s extremely comfortable. Eberlestock also makes some great packs.
 
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I take a kifaru spike camp. Carry on and loaded full it fits easily into the overhead on most commercial aircraft but will not fit into the smaller jets out of JoBurg to say Bulawayo.
 
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I have lots of Red Oxx gear, mostly their duffles, 3 sizes and other goodies. One thing you can count on with them is their gear is all top drawer. If you find a pack that they make that fits your needs, done, over, final and your search is complete.

Also take a look a the Camelback product line. If water carry is something you want/need these are hard to beat. Some are smallish with the emphisis on the water, while other models give you quite a bit of storage space as well. I use a smallish one, as others have said the tracker usually can carry the lunch, lots of extra water and such. Mine is limited to sunscreen, headache meds, smallish 1st aid kit, flashlight, small camera, small leatherman and some snack items and of course the water. Still room for take off items such as outer shirt, gloves, stocking cap and such to be stored.

Don't get overburdend with trying to CARRY too much, unless you know you will spend 80% - 90% of the day many miles from the vehicle.

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Also take a look a the Camelback product line. If water carry is something you want/need these are hard to beat. Some are smallish with the emphisis on the water, while other models give you quite a bit of storage space as well. I use a smallish one, as others have said the tracker usually can carry the lunch, lots of extra water and such. Mine is limited to sunscreen, headache meds, smallish 1st aid kit, flashlight, small camera, small leatherman and some snack items and of course the water. Still room for take off items such as outer shirt, gloves, stocking cap and such to be stored.

Don't get overburdend with trying to CARRY too much, unless you know you will spend 80% - 90% of the day many miles from the vehicle.

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This sounds more like what I think I need. Which Camelbak do you use?
 
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Oday,

That pack looks a lot bigger than what I need.

Jagter, my hunts are low cost, low profile. The PH, 1 tracker, and me. So I need to find a small/medium size day pack/truck bag to carry a small bit of misc. gear.

The C Ruck that HBH recommended is likewise a bit bigger than I need

Brazos_Jack


It's the maximum size that can also be used for carry on luggage. That way it serves two purposes. Remember, in the truck it is for storage - you don't wear it on the march.


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Take a look at Maxpedition gear. They have a number of packs that will suit your needs, well designed, bulletproof construction, reasonably priced. I like the Jumbo Versipack, the one strap over your off shoulder design allows you to shoulder your rifle without a strap getting in the way. PH's and trackers really appreciate them as gifts Wink

www.maxpedition.com
 
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I'm taking a Red Oxx ruck sack as a carry on and as my truck bag/back pack on my trip to Namibia starting tomorrow.

I'll let you know how it worked out in a couple weeks.
 
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Your trackers will carry all of your needs. A fanny pak just for some water on hand.

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Camelbak MULE. I didn't use it on my safaris, but that's only because I did't have it yet. I use that thing all over now. It's the perfect size for day-long expeditions - plenty of water, lunch, first aid kit, camera, and a few other small pieces of gear.


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I am curious what makes a day pack for hunting in Africa different from a day pack for hunting in TX, CA, or NM, AZ


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike - For one thing I don't have a tracker or (good friend who is willing) to tote the stuff I carry everytime in the field here in New Mexico. I have to do it myself, thus a larger, different type pack is required in NM than I use in Africa. So I guess that is one answer to your question?

I have some others but I am in a good, non combative mood at the moment!! With a signature line like yours I figured you would know the difference and be able to answer your own question?? Confused

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Jack - I use a Camelback Havoc, (don't think it's made anymore) but they have a bunch of comparables on their website. If you are close to a Sportmans Warehouse, Cabelas, Bass Pro or such they carry a good selection

Larry Sellers
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Also take a look a the Camelback product line. If water carry is something you want/need these are hard to beat. Some are smallish with the emphisis on the water, while other models give you quite a bit of storage space as well. I use a smallish one, as others have said the tracker usually can carry the lunch, lots of extra water and such. Mine is limited to sunscreen, headache meds, smallish 1st aid kit, flashlight, small camera, small leatherman and some snack items and of course the water. Still room for take off items such as outer shirt, gloves, stocking cap and such to be stored.

Don't get overburdend with trying to CARRY too much, unless you know you will spend 80% - 90% of the day many miles from the vehicle.

Larry Sellers
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This sounds more like what I think I need. Which Camelbak do you use?
 
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Larry,

You make my point exactly.

The appropriate day pack is based on how much stuff you plan to carry. The poster already stated "what he planned to carry".

Hence my question to him.


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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So far I have got by without a day pack in Africa. I carry my rifle and the rest goes in my pockets. The trackers carry the water and food. When I hunt Australia, the PH always furnished me a day pack for food and water, because it was just him and me - no trackers down under! I don't even own a day pack.
 
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Brazos,
Alright I'm in, I use my Camelback "maximum gear" cycling style hydration pack. It hauls 100 oz bladder, so the "how much water do I carry" question is moot. It's desert tan in color. the pack portion is large enough for, 10, 500NE 1. Sat Phone, Camera, and a bit of TP. (a bit more for some of you)The phone goes into the bush because, if I ever need it thats the most likely time.

When crunch time nears, I remove it as it changes your LOP and overall feel of the rifle.

Nganga


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My day pack has been a German surplus army pack that Cabela's had on special a few years ago. It has doubled as the carry-on bag as well.

It sits in the truck with extra ammo and other gear, not on my back while tracking or stalking.

 
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CamelBak gets my vote. Lots of models out there! Get on that you can strap stuff to if need....and also cinch up when it's not so full.


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I use a tactical tailor 3 day pack, on the hunt and as my carryon: works fine for me.
 
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For Africa I usually use an Australian made canvas backpack. But since Courteney is shutting down it Zim manufacture, I decided to purchase one of their game skin bags, not bad.


Sorry to hear about Courteney. I just ordered a pair of their Zim made impala hide gaiters because I liked the pair my PH wore in RSA. I assume they decided the terms of maintaining a presence in Zim under the new political rules was not worth it.
 
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Fieldline has a good assortment of packs. All have a lifetime warranty. You won't need that big of a pack.
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I am curious what makes a day pack for hunting in Africa different from a day pack for hunting in TX, CA, or NM, AZ


There is really no difference.

As we all know, you-get-what-you-pay-for. I save myself the trouble of trying to find out what everyone else likes. Just purchase the most expensive one I can find. That way you are assured of getting the best and you know that it will impress hunting partners.


Wink


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Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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I use a daypack from Blackhawk.. Works great and has plenty of room for all the BS I "have" to have on hand..
 
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for Africa,
\I take along a small hydration army surplus backpack---very similar to camelpacks. holds a 1 1/2 liter bladder(not always used) and large enough for other small essentials like TP snack,camera, ammo (stash for cash & passport). the bag is cheap to , around $35, you can get them in olive green, black and digital camo. It smalll enough to combine in your luggage or use as a small personal item carry-on. I use it as a carry on for electronics and also pack a Red OXX large backpack for my clothes etc. for carry-on. If I need asmall or a big pack, I have both with me. I try not to check luggage other than guns if I can.


for here in the states, I have half a dozen different backpacks-can't seem to stop buying the "next" great backpack dancing


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I use a pack I bought at Orvis that has zippers. My previous pack had velcro snaps which were very handy till I reached in and was tagged by a scorpion. After that I wanted as secure a closure system as possible. My pack serves as a piece of luggage carrying cameras,binoculars, medications and some clothing coming and going. I toss a small fanny pack in which I use when hunting. If elephant is on the menu, I would take one of the Camelback packs. One bout with dehydration taught me to never be short on water!
 
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Another vote for Badlands packs. The best pack on the planet. Check out their Monster Fanny pack, their Super Day pack or their Ultra Day pack. tu2
 
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Texas Hunt Co.

The pack is tough as hell and very well designed.
 
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I'm looking for a minimalist pack to carry what I need, as described above, and no more. So anything described as a "maximum carry on" is WAY too big.

I think 1200-1400 cu. in. capacity plus a 2 liter hydration bladder.

The Camelbak Striker and the Badlands Hydropack look about right. I like the looks of the New Zealand made Stoney Creek Streamline Hydration Pack too.

I've also heard that the "The Source" bladder is better than what comes in these packs.

So, with this clarification, what is the best pack (make and model) for my needs and which 2 liter bladder (make and model) is best.
 
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Just get this and be done with it...

http://www.rei.com/product/748124


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I've owned A LOT of back packs, but I don't believe that you can beat today's Badlands packs. Just my 2 centavos worth. Big Grin
 
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Fieldline H20 fanny pack ... pockets for two 1 L waterbottles, bottles included, buddylok system snaps, large main pocket, map pocket, camo, soft and quiet, light. I have used mine for 10 years and it's still going strong. The buddylok add-ons are for special purpose pouches, eg knife/light, ammo, camera pouch, videocam pouch etc. I put my videocam in a waterproof pouch that I got from Cabelas, and I have a knife/flashlight on the other hip. If anyone wants one of these packs, I have a few in stock. The main pack has two plastic thingies on the bottom to attach a rolled up jacket or a piece of closed cell foam to sit on. For that you need two 1/2" webbing straps ... something I would dearly like to put my hands on but nobody seems to sell them.


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Originally posted by Russ Gould:
Fieldline H20 fanny pack ... pockets for two 1 L waterbottles, bottles included, buddylok system snaps, large main pocket, map pocket, camo, soft and quiet, light. I have used mine for 10 years and it's still going strong. The buddylok add-ons are for special purpose pouches, eg knife/light, ammo, camera pouch, videocam pouch etc. I put my videocam in a waterproof pouch that I got from Cabelas, and I have a knife/flashlight on the other hip. If anyone wants one of these packs, I have a few in stock. The main pack has two plastic thingies on the bottom to attach a rolled up jacket or a piece of closed cell foam to sit on. For that you need two 1/2" webbing straps ... something I would dearly like to put my hands on but nobody seems to sell them.


You can find what you want here....

http://www.owfinc.com/

You want to go under plastic hardware for ladder lock buckles and under "gross gain" which is for 1/2 nylon straping....

You just need to be on a different forum....MYOG(make your own gear) hikers and backpackers Wink

I'll second the fanny pack....no straps to screw up a gun to your shoulder and easy to fit all you listed in your quest....

100 oz. Camelback of water;Thats 3 liters and 6 1/2 pounds,where you walkin' too? China?
 
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