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So if Tanzania does what they say, where next for reasonable and good sized buffalo? Although cartridge selection is important there is nothing that will substitute for proper first shot placement. Good hunting, "D" | ||
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Mozambique- prices still reasonable and apparently high success rates( bear in mind i have not hunted there but have talked directly with several people who have and they were pleased) Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Zimbabwe. STILL the best bang for the buck and you'll get your buffalo. Areas like Dande North & Chewore for example are producing some pretty decent stuff. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Botswana! Some outfits offer a 10 day hunt in the Okavanga Delta for buff and PG. I haven't been there yet but it is on my list. I have heard the Delta is one of the places on this earth you HAVE to see. But I would agree there are no flies on Zim, Moz or Zambia! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Its got to be Zimbabwe, Zambezi Valley for Buff. Also Mozambique, Zambezi Delta hunting the swamps. Mike With kind regards Mike Mike Taylor Sporting Hunting, Fishing & Photographic Safaris Worldwide +44 7930 524 097 mtaylorsporting@gmail.com Instagram - miketaylorsporting | |||
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jdollar Full score on Buffalo for 11 years on the trot now ...  Hunting the Zambezi delta, floodplains and forests is unique and everyone should experience it sometime!Johan | |||
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We still do not know how it will shake out in Tanzania but when you figure everything: Zambia...........$9000 1x1 7 days Mozambique.......$8000 1x1 7 days Zimbabwe........$10000 1x1 10 days These prices are rounded off for comparison and include everything accept trophy fees, tips, hotels as necessary and transportation to camp. The above prices are not really much different than what you'd find in the Selous area but you can't shoot a second buffalo for a trophy fee and that is where Tanz had the advantage over other countries. A second buff is possible in other countries but the cost is prohibitive. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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And how much does the transportation costs add in Tanzania and all the other taxes, fees, etc? I'd like to see a full "soup-to-nuts" comparison of all the places mentioned to get a good idea. The other plus for Zim is that you can shoot just about everything else while you are on the hunt so if you shoot your buff during the early part of the safari you can also do pretty much a general bag plains game should you choose to do so.jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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If somebody is going to do a "fruit to nuts" comparison, it might be a good idea to include Uganda now as well. There ought to be some +40 inchers around there. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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I have Buffalo/Plains Game hunts in Zim (Save) for $8,000 (10 days) Trophy fee on Buff is $2,500. Air charter from Harare runs $1,900 round trip (single engine) or $2,400 (twin engine) Cost can be split with other hunters. 10 day Buffalo/PG in West Nicholson $7,000 plus $2,500 trophy fee. Round trip transport (Bakkie) from Bulawayo runs $400 and up to 3 Hunters can share the cost of transport. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Jorge, I didn't see anything in Mark's post about costs for TZ, other than his mention about the 2nd buffalo in the Selous. I'm sure there are plains game species available in all of the areas mentioned, should one get his buff early in the hunt. I would imagine a 10 day hunt in Botswana for buff and plains game would be more competitive with the other southern countries on price alone. | |||
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jorge, Our best price (cheapest) for 7 days 1x1 is $7900 in Tanzania plus trophy fee, tips and hotels as necesary. Transportation is included. This allows you 2 buffalo plus plains game. The prices I previously posted are the closest I could come to including all government fees, dip/pack etc. I do agree that a buff hunt in Zim does give you an opportunity to hunt quite a few other animals as well were Tanz particularly is limited in what is allowed. Retunrning clients this year report seeing some excellent buufalo along the Luangwa in Zambia. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I just returned yesterday from hunting in Botswana. Five days in the Okavango delta and five days in the Kalahari. I thought about joking around and posting that there are no buffalo to hunt, so please don't go (as I want to save them for me when I can afford to return), but that wouldn't be very nice. The place is unbelievable. While I could not afford DG this trip, my father hunted buffalo. Based upon my LIMITED time in a single concession in the delta, one can reasonably expect an opportunity at a mature bull that will go 40+ inches. On day two of the hunt, my father took one that measured 41 1/2, with deep curls and good hooks, as well as a nice boss. There were a few 43-44 inch bulls in the herd, but they didn't have the depth of curl and hooks. There were lots and lots of huge buff to look at. There are also huge lions there, but that will cost you about $80K. Cheers. | |||
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Carolina Who did you hunt with? By chance was it Mark Kyriacou? I'm going to the Delta for 10 days, Buffalo, and the Kalahari for 5 in May. Trip report and pictures please! TerryR | |||
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John: I believe that on a 10 day license in Tz one can hunt zebra, hartebeest, Nyasa Wildebeest (a gorgeous trophy in itself and frankly a must for me) impala & warthog. Mark, if your price includes air fare, that is indeed a good price. Am I correct on the above species on a 10 day lic? jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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jorge, A 7 or 10 day Selous buff hunt has a 7 day license and you are correct on the plains game species. I just checked Calitz's prices in Botswana for short buff hunts. 7 days 1x1 to include one buffalo is $12,500. Not included is dip/pack, licenses/trophy fees for extra animals taken, tips and hotels. The 10 day 1x1 is $24650 with the same included and not included. That is more expensive than our Masailand hunts offering truly big buffalo and several other unique species. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I've benn researching top quality outfitters in TZ for buff. Up until the recent increases a 10 day 2 buff hunt in a prime concession with a Class AA outfitter would be $25,000 or so not counting Flight costs. My guess is that will go up 10-20%. I think TZ will lose some hunters to other countries. "shoot quick but take your time" | |||
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$25,000  That's well over $10,000 more than what the top quality company I used in the Selous block L1 gets for a 10 day 2 buff hunt. And they include the charter flight from DAR,TF on 1st buff, dip & pack, licence. They charged extra TFs on the PG and if I recall my N. wildebeast was $600. Of course we hunted from a top quality tented camp rather than a lodge. | |||
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Botswana is not for the bargan hunter, that being said, Calitz is, I believe, one of the more expensive outfitters. I'm sure the hunt is first class + but there are others there that are cheaper. The delta is spectacular though. | |||
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Terry, I agree. I've hunted a couple of areas in Botswana and drove to and from RSA. Other than the Delta which is quite spectacular the country is boring. Personally I only see it as a denstination if you are after a real chance at big ivory or you just want to see the Delta. With roan, sable and sitatunga off the trophy list there isn't much that's special left. Don't get me wrong the game is there but you can't hunt the good stuff. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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How does three additional days add $12,000? Different license? ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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I hunted with Bahati Adventures (Johan Strasheim) in Mozambique this June and I can not imagine a better hunt. It had it all. Great outfit, great area, and true wild Africa. It was my first trip to Africa and it was all I dreamed it would be. I took a huge 38 inch plus buffalo with hard bosses and also took a record book waterbuck, a nice warthog, and a huge baboon. The PHs were just plain outstanding and they will get you on big buffalo. Mozambique for me!!!!!! By the way, Johan is a true class act. Monte Scott West Point, Iowa | |||
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One thing I am seriously interested in is a backpack hunt for buff. It would be fun to take camp with you as you hunt...almost porter style and you could access some neat back country. _______________________________  | |||
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essentially ALL of africa that has free roaming buffalo is "back country". since you can only cover maybe 5-7% as much country each day on foot that you could cover in a Landcruiser, you better book a LONG hunt or be VERY lucky and hope the outfitter gives you a helluva price break because you saved him fuel costs. it is a nice nostalgic idea but the reality is a whole different thing Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Depends on how you set it up and research the area. The PH is keen on the idea (flycamps, lots of hiking, etc). This is basically what we do up here and when you get onto a good group of animals there is a lot of sense in being able to camp close to them and find them quickly in the morning. _______________________________ | |||
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I might have a cancellation hunt coming up with Pierre van Tonder. It will cost you about $8000 all inclusive except for hotels before and after if needed, $200 per gun, and tips that are optional, no other costs, buff included, air charter included..in other words less than half price. For 10 days it will run about $11,000. In Tanzania. Sept or early Nov. dates available..I will know in a couple of weeks. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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reference my post earlier about a bargain PAC ele hunt in Namibia. bargains like this are a great reason to hold off on booking a hunt during convention season and waiting to see what pops up. even with short notice airfares, you will still save money Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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If I was booking a buffalo hunt, there is no question who I would book with. It would be Adam Clements in Masiland for November. It does not get any better. "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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Scott, Your absolutely right. If you are looking for the buffalo hunt that has the greatest chance of producing a really big buffalo or two you can't beat Lobo or Lokisale. Because of what I do I have a pretty good idea of what different areas produce. I decided this year that I wanted at least one big buffalo in my life and I chose Lobo in December of '09. I'm also bringing a good friend and client on this hunt which makes it even more important that I have chosen the right concession. This hunt is very expensive for me as well as it is for anybody else but the trophy quality for me makes it worth the price. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Terry R, Sorry for the delay in relying. We were hunting with Greg Butler safaris. The PH's were wonderful. The country was beautiful. If I had to do it again, I probably would have probably hunted 8 days in the Delta and 6 days in the Kalahari. But then again, I only had 10 days to hunt. Five and five was just too short in each area, with a looooooooooooong drive in between. Botswana may not have been the most wise choice for a first safari, but we sure enjoyed it. Would have probably gone to Zim but for the instability (not trying to start and argument here-I'm not interested in debating that issue). We didn't want to go to RSA or Namibia and hunt on a ranch (I don't care that it's 200,000 acres- it still has a fence). We wanted the wide open spaces of Botswana. Could have probably done something similar in Tanzania or Mozambique, with a little better diversity of animals, but neither has the Delta, which was spectacular. Best of luck on your buffalo hunt. You'll have a blast. | |||
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