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Hi would a 3006 or 308 be enough for plai games naturally loaded with good 180 gr swift or nosler or bx. what would be the limit of these cartridges? regaeds Y E S Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. | ||
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I used a 300 H&H handloaded with the 200 grain Swift A-Frame. It worked nicely but upon the return trip I'll take the .30-06 featherweight and 180 or 200 grain A-Frames again...and yes...handloaded... My PH recommended a 30-06 and 180 Nosler partitions.....and he was absolutely right-on with this recommendation. Others will use a .338 for the Eland size stuff.....IMO an eland is not deader with a bigger gun. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Either one will be fine...most animals in Africa are shot well under 250 yds and there isn't going to be any realistic difference in a 308 or 30-06 inside of 250 yds Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I've used a .308 quite extensivley on plains game. It works just fine. | |||
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Up to 300 yards is both cartridges limit for all practical purposes and 99% of African game is shot at less than 200 yards...either will do as there isn't a nickles worth of difference in them....both good rounds. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Used my .30-06 on my first safari with 200 gr Nosler Partitions. Longest shot in the bushveld was about 200 metres. | |||
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Our PH told us that the two most popular cartridges with the folks that live there are 30-06 and 308 for plains game. Bob There is room for all of God's creatures....right next to the mashed potatoes. http://texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/   | |||
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I've shot them with a 7x57 and a .375 H&H, both killed everything they hit. By the way, I can't tell any difference between a 7x57,.280, .308, .30-06 in the field whithout looking on the barrel to see how its chambered. You won't shoot over 300 yards, somehow when any blood drawn results in a trophy fee, I find a way to get closer and be 100% sure of my shot. Funny how that works. I think almost nothing of shooting a doe from 450 yards behind my house with confidence,600-700 trophy fee makes me shoot within 200 yards consistently. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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I plan on taking my 30-06 to Namibia next August. Dave "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." -Thomas Paine, "American Crisis" | |||
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I agree with jstevens...I been looking at bullet holes in game for several decades, ions and such and never have developed a way to determine what caliber they were shot with unless I knew before hand!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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i dunno about that if i shot a zebra with my 700 youd know something huge hit it........it would look like a sparrow or some small bird flew clean through it i shot my elephant on the ground a few times to recover bullets and man did it make some huge ass holes. | |||
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I used a .308 loaded with barnes x-bullets this year in RSA. I took kudu,gemsbok,blesbok,blue and black wildebeest, and zebra with no problem. | |||
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I have used the 30/06 and 308 for some time now with great results, but on one occasion while hunting Water Buck my shot was a tad high only hiting the top of the lungs, we almost lost the animal {very little spoor}, I was thankfull to have been using my 9.3x62 and not a smaler caliber, sure it was my fault in not placing the shot better, but unfortunatly that can happen while hunting. | |||
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Either would do but i would lean to the 06 because of the ability to use 200gr bullets for the bigger/tougher antelope like Gemsbok & Eland, etc. A 200gr bullet out of the 06 will go about as fast as the 180gr out of the 08. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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I used the 308 with 168gr Barnes Triple Shock. Eerythnig was a one shot kill with 9 animals except for the Eland... A deflefted first shot made things interesting but I did recover one bullet that passed right through the chest to finish up on the offside pelt with perfect performance. FB | |||
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I have a loaner 30/06 for my hunters that don't wish to bring thier own rifles. It has cleanly taken 100's of plains game over the years and we have not lost a single one. It shoots 165 grain bonded core bullets and they work exceptionally well. I chose to use the 165's because they are so accurate and have a bit less recoil for the younger hunters and ladies that have hunted with me and needed to use the gun. The 30/06 as mentioned above is likely the most popular cartridge used by locals as well. | |||
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Go with the 7.62 x 51 - there's ammo available all over the place...Our game scout carried a FAL for example, thus there was some "emergency" ammo at hand at all times... ...30-06??? might be trickier to find. Jeff | |||
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I've used 30-06 , 180 gr TBBC on plainsgame up to and including Kudu. It has worked well. | |||
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