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I was just wondering if anyone heard how hunting was going in Angola so far? Thanks. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | ||
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Well, since Castro is no longer interested in expanding his brand of pure communism to west Africa - I suppose it might be OK for an American to try hunting among the locals. Personally, I wouldn't advise it. I was in Zimbabwe in 1993 and at that time my PH told me bad tales about the behaviour of Cubans in Angola - and wanted to know why my powerful country didn't squelch those people. I had no answer (that can be printed here) | |||
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Gerrypeters, you're about two decades behind the times. If you had been in Zimbabwe ("Southern Rhodesia") a couple of decades earlier than 1993 you might well have been having a hard time retaining your epidermis. The Cubans have been gone from Angola for so long that hardly anyone there remembers them. Angola is still struggling with modernizing their government and economy and clearing antiquated land mines from the countryside, but it is opening up and potentially represents some outstanding hunting and touring opportunities in the not-to-distant future. | |||
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Stonecreek: My PH had been a scout when it was still "Southern Rhodesia". He told me about people who had lived in Angols - and this was in 1993. (I may be behind today - but in 1993 I was not "a couple of decades" behind. If you think that communism in Africa is out of date -I suggest that you watch out for the oilfields. BTW,this old man is curious why someone in Kansas is so eager to protect guerillas acting against what you say is an organized government. Just asking. | |||
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Well that was fun! Anyone have any idea about how hunts have been this year if they have indeed taken place in Angola? Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I consider myself somewhat knowledgeable about what's going on in Southern Africa.....but I definitely missed something here!  Anyway....I'd like to know about hunting there too.  | |||
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 I too am interested in who's been there and what they've killed. Next year I'm in Zim for the fifth time, mainly to accompany an older friend who's never hunted in Africa. After that, I'm thinking about Angola or Uganda. This exchange brought back memories on this forum - what ever happened to the guy that whenever you mentioned Zimbabwe basically promised you'd get your privates lobbed off if you went there? Can't remember his screen name. Good times. | |||
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Roger Whittal was to start hunting in Southern Angola this past August, but the hunts were cancelled due to ????. Ken Wilson of Sportsmen on Film is his booking agent and still lists them on his website. I believe the problem is that Angola doesn't even have any hunting laws on their books and Mr. Whittal was dealing with local officials who were eager to get some concession revenue, but never had authority to authorize the hunts. Perhaps Ken Wilson or Mr. Whittal could comment in more detail. I was interested in booking, but was warned by an experienced PH that the hunts were unlikely to ever commence. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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David Keith can probably give us a better idea of what is going on with regards to the situation in Angola. I spoke with him in Dallas and afterwards regarding hunting there, but subsequently heard from a knowledgeable source that the hunting proposed was not going to happen quite yet. Thus far that appears to be the case. Hopefully everything can get squared away and hunting can commence. I would be very interested in seeing open up. "...Africa. I love it, and there is no reason for me to explore why. She affects some people that way, and those who feel as I do need no explanation." from The Last Safari | |||
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Kansas is a hotbed of organized Cuban spy rings. Jeez, loosen your tinfoil hat. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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I would watch very carefully where I step. Mike  | |||
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I have a good contact in SA who is working for a company seting up a concession there. This guy lived there for fourteen years. Still a lttle time away though. | |||
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I read a couple of years ago that serious effors are being made to conserve the Royal giant sable - a small population was found & photos were taken and even some live capture videos were posted IIRC. It would be incredible wild, adventurous hunting in its true sense. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Having spent entirely too much time in that s**t hole during the mid/late 90's, two words come to mind when thinking of Angola: land mines. Additionally, that place holds my record as the filthiest county I've ever been in. That was a while back, though, so maybe things have improved. I have absolutely no fond memories of that miserable place. | |||
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Sounds lovely "....but to protest against all hunting of game is a sign of softness of head, not of soundness of heart." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Yes, it's up in the air currently. It's been on again, off again for some time. Hard to get definitive answers as to what is going to happen. I'm awaiting some news in the near future as one of my PH friends is doing some exploratory investigations within the country. I'm hoping by Dallas we'll be rolling for next year. Currently it seems the air was let out of the balloon. My advice would be to let the dust settle before making any plans. David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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So, you'r saying that the place has a lot of "atmosphere". Isn't that how a marketing person would put it? "Lots of local character and atmosphere". Elephant Hunter, Double Rifle Shooter Society, NRA Lifetime Member, Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe | |||
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Fjold: Smell of the oil fields in your area getting to be too much? Gee! I forgot - Bakersfield has oil wells -and so does Angola.I have another conspiracy going!  (It's idiots like you -from the left coast,what else to expect? - who never see the forest for the trees -do you think the attacks on oil fields in Angola -or elsewhere in Africa come because of "just us freedom fighters"? -and that attacks on American, so called "sport hunters" won't be encouraged by the same people behind those attacks? To use an old expression of my youth -wake up and smell the coffee! Russia is still a troublemaker for Americans around the world. | |||
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I met with Roger Whittal at his Humani ranch last week for lunch and received an update on the proposed Angola hunting. He has secured a large area for hunting and is in the process of drafting game laws for Angola. There is also the need for firearms permit paperwork etc. etc. which Roger is working on in conjuntion with the Angolan government as well. Roger is still optimistic about hunting in Angola taking place next season and was talking to me about starting a list of interested clients. I will keep you posted as I find out more. | |||
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Put me on your list. I'll give Angola a try as long as everything is legal. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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Keep in mind I was there several times during the war, and also during one of the truces. I have never seen so many amputees anywhere, both single and double. Orphaned children everywhere. Unexploded ordinance laying around on the airport ramp. 82mm mortar rounds buried almost up to the fins. People squatting on benches on the waterfront in Luanda and crapping on the sidewalk. We called the park located between the Presidente Meridien Hotel and the seaport gate the OK Corral because there were nightly shootouts, with rounds occasionally making it through a window or two. Nobody slept near the windows. As I said, that was a long time ago. I could go on about the place for a while, but I have nothing constructive or current to offer, so I'll shut up. | |||
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I believe Equatorial Guinea is filthier but Angola is close. Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do. | |||
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This is the closest you will come to hunting Angola for a while... (Namibia right of the 2 track road in the pic, Angola left.)  Karl Stumpfe Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net karl@huntingsafaris.net P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia Cell: +264 81 1285 416 Fax: +264 61 254 328 Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264 | |||
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