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quote:George, this is from the site: The arrow has just hit the bear at 18 yards, then he charges. The bear reacted violently to the shot, he snapped off the arrow and then our eyes made contact. His ears laid back, in a split second he charged. At that moment, everything went into slow motion. The first 3 seconds are blank. As if I had awakened from a dream I woke up to find myself at full draw - bearing down on the charging grizzly. I don't remember nocking a 3rd arrow - I don't remember drawing my bow - I just remember being at full draw, picking a spot then shooting when the bear was 4 yards away. Despite the frontal shot, my arrow buried up to the fletchings in his chest. His head turned to bite at my arrow and his loss of focus caused him to run by me- by only a few feet. I spun in time to see Bryan, who had dropped the video camera and was just getting his rifle shouldered, bearing down on my fatally hit bear. I yelled "Don't shoot, the arrow is perfect" out of instinct. But Bryan's shot was necessary - in self-defense. The bear had turned on him. The 375 H&H round hit him square at 2 yards, the bear spun around and bryan put a 2nd round in him before he ran between the us and headed downhill to die. To me that indicates he stopped or turned the charge toward him. The bear went towards the other individual, the guide. Anyway you look at it, what a great story. ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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quote:Turning a charge means to force a change of direction (preferably AWAY from the shooter). This bear was distracted by the sting of the arrow long enough for it to run by its intended target. That is sheer luck; it is NOT testimony to the effectiveness of an arrow as a "stopper" or "turner". George | |||
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Mickey Not me, no one has caused me any discomfort. I'm compiling the general attitude that seems to be common, in relationship to the 45-70. The fellows who have not been party to previous discussions on the 45-70, cast bullets and Cape buffalos. Jim | |||
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Whoa, George! My original reason for posting the link was that I thought it was a great and exciting story. Nothing else, no subliminal message as to the 'stopping ability' of an arrow. I NEVER claimed any arrow was a stopper. If you have read any of my posts you will see that I am very limited in my opinions of what constitutes a 'stopper'. By the authors words the bear turned away from him and towards the guide when he snapped at the arrow. That, by your own definition, is turning the charge. He could have thrown a rock and turned the bear away from him. I don't think a rock, at least one you can pick up  , is a stopper either. The author had a great hunt and saw more Grizzlies than the Rain Forrest Coalition claims to live in B.C. Enjoy it. | |||
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DBKING, See the Samaki thread I just posted. | |||
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You can be as picky as you want about whether the guy stopped the charge with his 2nd arrow. WHO CARES!!!! Can you believe that he was able to nock another arrow after hitting with the first one in time to hit the bear in charge mode!! That guy has got grit that won't quite. Am I the only one whose adrenalin is flowing just hearing him recount the experience? | ||
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"Faith should be given no chance",so i would choose something with more power and penetration.I must admit i haven't been hunting the big five,,so i really should'nt say anything at all,,b ut i must say,,after all the horror stories with the .458 Win mag on cape buff's,,i'd be better of with a two,gun battery. But if i understtod this topic right it was talk about one gun to "rule" them all,,so i would choose .460 Wby !. But to end this the right thing to do is to choose the rifle one are confident with(very importante)and of course good bullets. ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} | ||
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