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Originally posted by onefunzr2:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
damn, now that's real hunting- 1 day and done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember the fellow who, along with his two buddies, all shot their MGM lions the very first morning, then came here to brag of their accomplishments.

i remember it very well and he got roasted for it-as well he should.if i recall correctly, they shot a total of 4-5 lions that day- lions and lionesses. i also noticed that he disappeared. wonder why??

I just watched that episode on my Tivo. I have now erased Steve Scott from future recordings.

Glad to see that guys are standing up for ethics.

Below is the code of conduct taken from the Rowland Ward website, http://www.rowlandward.com/Guild/Guild.aspx?gmid=3 the field guide of sportsman is a worthy organisation for guys with ethics when it comes to the field.

Code Of Conduct

• That at all times a Member will extend every courtesy, privilege and assistance to a fellow Field Sportsman.

• That all hunting be conducted only during the hours of natural light.

• That no creature be hunted for sport in an enclosed area of such size that such creature is not self-sufficient. Self-sufficiency includes the ability of the animal to exercise its natural inclination to escape from the hunter as well as catering for all its basic needs such as water, food, shelter and breeding.

• That no shooting take place from, or within a short distance of a vehicle, nor the use of vehicles to drive game.

• That no shooting take place from, or within a short distance of an aircraft.

• That no aircraft be used to spot or drive game, nor the use of aircraft to land hunters within a short distance of game for the purpose of hunting the game so spotted.

• That only hunting weapons of such power and calibre that are capable of killing game quickly and efficiently at practical ranges be employed.

• That all forms of competition in the field between Sportsmen whilst hunting and fishing be avoided.

• That no creature be killed for sport, that is deemed to be immature, breeding or dependant and cannot, by virtue of its trophy or flesh, be fully utilised.

• That every effort is made to respect and safeguard the property of the landowner.

• That a landowner-member extend every courtesy, comfort and assistance possible to a member who hunts or fishes on his property.

• That a Professional Hunter/Guide-member makes sure that his clients understand and are fully aware of the Guild’s Code of Ethics and Standards that will be upheld during the course of any hunt.

• That a sportsman respects with understanding, the attitudes, feelings and principles of those that do not engage in activities of Field Sport.

• That a Sportsman should conduct his sport with due regard to his own physical capabilities, recognise his limitiations and responsibility to his companions or assistants.

• The Guild recognises that ’culling’, ’cropping’, ’trapping’, ’capture’ and vermin control are a necessary part of game management as long as they are conducted with consideration and humane treatment of the wildlife involved. However, at no time can these activities be regarded in the context of Field Sports.

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Well it would appear most of the game taken in Africa would not fall within the confines of the Rowland Ward Code of Conduct.

Forget a hugh amount of "baited" Leopard taken with a light.

Forget the game spotted from the vehicle and "stalked" a few hundered yards.

Forget the groups togeather in a camp betting on who gets the biggest what ever.

Oh yea the biggest no creature be killed for sport that is "breeding".

Respect with understanding the feelings of those not engaged in the activities of Field Sport. Oh yea, most posters here would fail this quickly.

Eh.

Larry- Regarding Pat Lefemine, owner of the Bowsite- I really don't think he knew until it was over. He does now and has to defend it. As to how any hunter slightly more than "room temperature" could be fooled is the great question! As said here and elsewhere, a rudimentary knowledge of the cat's biology and a calculator will give you the answer...

I was once staying at a "motel" in RSA that had a few lions in enclosures for the tourists to see. You could step over a little fence and pet the cubs. There were also about five big pens (1/4 acre?) out back.

This was during the time that RSA had prospectively changed the law requiring lions to be "free" for 6 months before they could be hunted (since rescinded?). The owner of the motel told me that he had sold lots of males and females to "hunting" concessions for "safaris" but was afraid that his source of income was about to dry up.

Curious as to the price he was getting and what he expected to do with the lions in the pens, he gave me particulars of what they cost to raise and for what he sold them (pre-hunting ban). He then offered me a lioness hunt for $2000 U.S. citing the upcoming new regulations.

I asked him where I would hunt and he said "right here". Now, right here was a motel, some 30x50 meter pens and with maybe 200 hectares surrounding. There were no secure fences except for the pens. I guess I would have had to make sure to kill the lioness before it could get to the motel boundries and into the maize fields adjoining.

Well, the ban didn't go into effect. I'm sure that all those lions are now on some real hunters "trophy" room walls.

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Well, the ban didn't go into effect. I'm sure that all those lions are now on some real hunters "trophy" room walls.

Just as ethics have gone out of our government and corporate boardrooms, so have they gone by the wayside to folks rich enough to kill those pigs lions in a poke, have them mounted and then concoct a real Ramar of the Jungle hunting tale.

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Originally posted by JohnHunt:
I just watched that episode on my Tivo. I have now erased Steve Scott from future recordings.

Mr. Scott is a member here as I mentioned earlier in this discussion. Maybe he would like to comment? I'll send him a PM.

I almost stopped recording the shows after some political commentary about the South African government a year or so ago. For some resaon I did not remove it.