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I hope this can be resolved by Aug 4th. Caleb | |||
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I know this royaly sucks for those with upcoming/cancelled trips (I'd be in mental ward by now), but maybe a new vendor will step in. Perhaps with better seating and customer service. If you are going to carry a big stick, you've got to whack someone with it at least every once in while. | |||
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Redlander, I hope carriers like KLM, ect pick up the slack and give travellers a viable choice rather than SAA's poor customer service and flying cattlecars. Lets show SAA that they don't have the monopoly anymore. I myself will NEVER fly SAA again. If they are the only choice to get to Africa, I'll pass and go elsewhere. ______________________ Age and Treachery Will Always Overcome Youth and Skill | |||
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KLM all the way. I've flown them the last 2 trips over and have had nothing but excellent service with a smile. My flight last month from Amsterdam to Jburg was only 1/2 full. I have thou been on flights that were full and the service was still up to speed. They've got me. Global Sportsmen Outfitters, LLC Bob Cunningham 404-802-2500 | |||
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Subject: UPDATED - OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS. 25 Jul 05 UPDATED - OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS July 25, 2005: 1600h Dear travel partner, South African Airways would like to update you on our operational situation for Tuesday, July 26, 2005. Revised schedule for Tuesday July 26, 2005 SA204 JFK DKR JNB 1755 --- 1705 A340-300 Scheduled SA208 IAD ACC JNB 0845 --- 0740 B747-400 Cancelled SA210 ATL SID JNB 1045 --- 1020 A340-600 Cancelled At present time we cannot confirm which other scheduled operations will be arriving or departing among our network of International, Regional and Domestic operations. We hope to have more information on our operations for Wednesday July 27th, early tomorrow. As communicated on Friday, South African Airways will continue to assist in re-accommodating all passengers that are affected by our operational disruption. Again, we do encourage our partners to contact their clients and advise them against proceeding to the airport during this labor situation. Your South African Airways Team Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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This sucks...I have to leave Wednesday and fly to DC for a Thursday AM Flight. SAA will not allow me to reschedule until they "Cancel my flight" which could be Wednesday. Looks like I may be spending some time in DC....Anyone know of any hunting guides in the Dulles area? ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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I'm stuck in Johannesburg right now. We got out of Zim luckly and now am trying to get back to the states. They've put us up in a very nice hotel and i will be eating a couple filet steaks a day until they can get us home all expenses paid by SAA. The airport at Joburg is a huge mess. I wish you guys luck that are trying to get over here now. | |||
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Guests / SAA code share with EMIRATES .. Why dont you guys (bite the bullet) and take a new route ( stuff SAA ) and fly via UAE Dubai with EMIRATES Peter | |||
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Tht'll work, aside from air emerites having 301 people in every 300 person plane to jo for the last 3-4 months...Booked that route 4.5 months ago,and got in by the skin of my teeth..Saying and doing are two diff. things | |||
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Well, I'm going to try again today to get out of DC on SAA. We has a plane yesterday but it was just one thing after another until we finally got out to the runway and discovered a huge fuel leak. They took us off the plane right there at the end of the runway. At that point we were already 4-5 hours late departing so they canceled it. Hopefully they got her fixed overnight and we'll be on our way. I will say the SAA staff on the ground and the flight crew were very pleasant and were working very hard to get things going. | |||
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I have no idea what the cost would be now, but I have flown to both Zim. and SA via Washington/Dulles to Addis Ababa and on down to the Southern Hemeisphere on Ethiopian Airlines. Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | |||
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I just got home from Zim yesterday afternoon. I was supposed to leave on the 22nd and didn't get out until the 24th. Boddington and I were both stuck in the same lines for two days. I got rerouted through London Heathrow via BA then on to Detroit via JFK on AA. Going through London with guns was somewhat painful but not nearly as bad as JFK. Had a great hunt though, my fourteen year old son got his first buffalo on day one and I got one on day two. He then proceeded to try to shoot every head of plains game in southern Africa. Ouch!... I'm not anxious to see the final bill. Geronimo | |||
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Oh, I forgot to mention, Craig was rerouted through Zurich then to Washington Dulles, I believe. I really don't think going through Joburg is the thing to do. In Harare we were getting reports of fist fights and such breaking out with so many people stuck there. Geronimo | |||
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Many folks who were on the fence w/SAA will now never support them again. It's kind of sad... We always saved a day or two using them. Now I have to figure out how to burn my delta miles.And what a nightmare for the agents! | |||
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I'm certainly not defending SAA but strikes can happen on just about any airline, or airport, for that matter. It is just one of those speed bumps in life that you have to deal with. It ain't all that bad, you still breathing air and going hunting. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Strike-hit South African Airways has cancelled all international flights, as the airline and two unions head for dispute resolution by the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA). SAA, the United Association of South Africa (Uasa) and the South African Transport and Allied Workers Union (Satawu) were due for talks at the CCMA on Tuesday, the fifth day of the crippling strike, SAA spokesperson Onkgopotse JJ Tabane confirmed on Tuesday morning. Tabane said it was difficult to tell how many domestic flights would be cancelled or delayed as SAA was monitoring the situation hourly. "We would suggest you arrive well before the flight, to see what is happening," Tabane said, adding that all international flights had been cancelled until further notice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'We would suggest you arrive well before the flight' The airline's operations remained affected at all of the country's major airports, Tabane said. Danny Twala of Satawu confirmed on Tuesday morning that the parties involved had sought the intervention of the CCMA to resolve the matter. Twala said that while the negotiations took place, the strike would proceed. The decision to go to the CCMA followed Labour Minister Membathisi Mdladlana's call on Monday to both sides to resolve their differences through the CCMA. On Friday SAA turned down an initial offer of dispute resolution, made under the Labour Relations Act. SAA bettered its 5 percent offer by applying it to medical aid and housing, as well as an additional amount of R1 600. Satawu secretary Danny Twala said SAA management behaved as though nothing was wrong and that their attitude was crippling the airline. "They have given the public a perception that they had come with a new offer but they have not." "The difference is that they have included a once-off R1 600 bonus but are still offering 5 percent," he said. - Staff Reporter. This article was originally published on page 2 of Cape Argus on July 26, 2005 ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Subject: OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR JULY 26, 2005 UPDATED - OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS July 26, 2005 Dear travel partner, South African Airways would like to update you on our operational situation for Tuesday, July 26, 2005. Revised schedule for Tuesday July 26, 2005 SA208 IAD ACC JNB 0845 --- 0740 B747-400 Departing 7/26/05 SA210 ATL SID JNB 1045 --- 1020 A340-600 Cancelled SA204 JFK DKR JNB 1755 --- 1705 A340-300 Scheduled Schedule for Wednesday July 27, 2005 SA204 JFK DKR JNB 1755 --- 1705 A340-300 Scheduled SA210 ATL SID JNB 1045 --- 1020 A340-600 Cancelled Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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July 26, 2005, 18:45 Efforts to resolve the dispute between South African Airways (SAA) and unions were still underway at 6pm today, a union spokesperson said. "It could take a bit of time. Our have guys prepared themselves to go through the night," Andre Venter, the United Association of SA (Uasa) spokesperson, said. The meeting between the parties at SAA's offices in Kempton Park was being facilitated by two mediators from the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA). Venter said once the parties had made their introductions, they were then separated to give the commissioners an understanding of each side's point of view. Afterwards they would be brought together again, where the mediators would attempt to find where "the possibility of movement" existed, Venter said. Facilitators earlier called on the parties to "seriously explore" ways of settling the dispute before tomorrow, in the wider community's and the economy's interests. - Sapa =================================== Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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27/07/2005 10:38 Johannesburg - An agreement in principle has been drafted to resolve the dispute between South African Airways and striking unions, the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration said on Wednesday. "Significant progress has been made towards resolution of the dispute. An in principle agreement has been drafted, the contents of which cannot be disclosed at this stage." the CCMA said in a press statement. The parties would convene at 09:00 on Thursday after consulting with their principals. United Association of SA spokesperson Andre Venter said the union would recommend acceptance of the agreement. "Hopefully we will sign the agreement." As an act of good faith, it was also hoped that members would return to their posts on Wednesday, he said. The proposal would be explained to members through delegates as well as through e-mail and SMS. Spokespeople for the SA Transport and Allied Workers Union (Satawu) and SAA were not immediately available to comment. The parties have agreed that details of the draft agreement not be revealed to the media. Earlier, the SAA help desk said: "The strike is still on". The airline also apologised for the effects of the strike in a full-page newspaper notice headed "We are sorry". "When cabin crew fail to report for duty as part of this industrial action, we cannot operate flights as no aircraft can be operated without a minimum number of cabin crew. This is a safety requirement of the Civil Aviation Authority of South Africa," the notice read. Mediation began at 15:00 on Tuesday in a bid to resolve a dispute over the 8% the unions want and the 5% the airline has offered. The airline also believes that its application of the increase to medical aid and housing and a once-off payment of R1 600 improves the offer. The unions say they agree over the amount available to the airline for increases, but disagree on how it will be shared. Meanwhile, since the strike started on Friday 75% of the flights had been cancelled, postponed or delayed, SAA said. All international and regional flights were cancelled until further notice and domestic flights were being assessed hourly. About 65% of passengers have been rerouted, or accommodated on other flights or on SAA's alliance partners. If the present online booking falls into the dates affected by the strike, SAA said it would honour the change at the original price paid. They had agreements with various airlines on endorsement of tickets, loaning of aircraft, additional capacity and consolidation of various SAA flights where possible. Contingency plans included the training of contract cabin crew for relief on domestic flights and the training of students to man call centres and reservations posts. They were also accommodating up to a 2 000 stranded passengers worldwide in hotels. Passengers could call +27 11 978 1111 (option 1) to check whether their flight was affected without speaking to an operator. Otherwise, passengers could call the following numbers for assistance: SAA call centre +27-11-978-2888, SAA reservations +27-11-978-1111, SAA Voyager +27-11-978-1234 and travel agents can phone 0860-102-705. Passengers can also or log on to the SAA website http://www.flysaa.com. News24/SAPA Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Piet Taljaard: SA Airways Pilots Association Alec Hogg Posted: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:00 | © Moneyweb Holdings Limited, 1997-2005 MONEYWEB: Just to continue on the SAA theme, Piet Taljaard joins us now. He’s the chairman of the South African Airways Pilots Association. Piet, we’ve got a strike going on at SAA, but it’s got nothing to do with the Pilots Association at this point in time. However, you’ve also got your own disputes. PIET TALJAARD: Hello, Alec, yes like you said, the present strike has nothing to do with the pilots. We did sympathise with the strikers, we expressed our moral support, but our issues are completely divorced from what is going on at the moment. MONEYWEB: Well what are your issues with the management of South African Airways? PIET TALJAARD: We have contractual issues, based on our perception of their mismanagement of the company. MONEYWEB: And where have you taken it? PIET TALJAARD: Our issues have been lodged. I think six of them at this stage have been lodged with the CCMA, where they reside, as it were, until a 30-day cooling period has expired. MONEYWEB: And in that cooling period, where are you now – how far down the process are you? PIET TALJAARD: About a week, just more than a week down the road in the cooling period. MONEYWEB: A week to go then? PIET TALJAARD: No, no, a week since starting. MONEYWEB: A week since starting? So you’ve still got three more weeks. PIET TALJAARD: Yes, plus/minus. MONEYWEB: But what might happen then from here, what is the process that you guys will be following or that the pilots will be following? PIET TALJAARD: Well the process is pretty much laid down by law. You have to endeavour, in this time, both the company and the pilots, or both parties, have to endeavour to break the deadlock. If the deadlock is not broken in this time, then at the end of the procedure the CCMA issues a certificate for industrial action. And then the aggrieved party decides on the type of industrial action to be embarked on, and then they do that. MONEYWEB: When the union started negotiating with management they were told, according to reports and what they’ve told us, that there was no money. And in between their negotiations, SAA came out trumpeting some fantastic results – in its opinion, anyway. I suppose, if you put that on the table, you can’t really blame the unions for getting more than a little upset, as they have. PIET TALJAARD: I’m not privy to their negotiations, but if they started off with a very low offer from management – and I can only presume that that is the case because that is how it normally happens, management starts low and the unions start high, and eventually they find some middle ground – if the management started very low and worked themselves up to the present position, and in the midst of this whole fracas announced a very huge profit, they’ve shot themselves in the foot. MONEYWEB: Is money involved in your unhappiness? PIET TALJAARD: Our unhappiness has got nothing to do with money. It is contractual, it is our perception of management, and those are the issues that we need to sort out – and our issues are lying there. So, as it were, they are sub judice and I cannot really expand on them, but once the cooling-off period has gone, then one can talk about them, etc, etc, because then it becomes a matter of public record. It would be quite fair of us to sit here and trumpet and go on about issues that are lying there and we haven’t discussed them with management yet, because they’re busy with the present strike. MONEYWEB: What about members, though, Piet? When are you going to be talking with your members? PIET TALJAARD: Alec, we’ve got a special general meeting tomorrow and we are trying to get as many members as possible to this meeting because at this meeting, or during this meeting, we are going to be balloting our members for industrial action. What happens at such a meeting is that you inform the members about the latest stage, or the latest state of your negotiations or failure of negotiations, or where you are in the process, and why this process is deemed to be deadlocked. Once you’ve informed the members – and usually this takes on almost the same air as an Israeli cabinet meeting, there is more shouting and “gaaning aan†at one of these meetings than you could ever imagine. So once this meeting is over, and everybody has been informed to the best of our ability, the members then make up their mind and say, “Yes, on this issue I am prepared to go to industrial action, on that issue I’m notâ€. And then they vote accordingly. And once the vote has been taken and once the vote has been counted, then the executive of the association go from there. MONEYWEB: So tomorrow is critical then, Piet? In other words, even if SAA is able to settle with the unions who are currently on strike, in three weeks’ time when your cooling off period ends, perhaps the pilots are going to go on strike? PIET TALJAARD: Well, yes, tomorrow is critical in the sense that it is the first of several of our information meetings, where we’re going to tell our members what is happening, but we haven’t put one toe in the water of industrial dispute yet. The pilots have not started anything in terms of industrial action yet. MONEYWEB: But tomorrow’s the day. Piet Taljaard is the chairman of the South African Airways Pilots Association. You don't suppose they'd be so silly as to have the pilots strike less than a month after the current mess? | |||
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Kathi, Your efforts to bring us the latest info concerning this strike is greatly appreciated. I fly out in 15 days, and my hopes are this will be squared away with. It appears the parties are getting closer. BigBullet BigBullet "Half the FUN of the travel is the esthetic of LOSTNESS" Ray Bradbury https://www.facebook.com/Natal...443607135825/?ref=hl | |||
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Kathi, Did any flights make it out of JNB to the US today? ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Those flights don't leave till evening... waiting for info from SAA.... Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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From the SABC:
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'SAA strike over' Jul 27 2005 07:05:14:097PM SAA pilots to keep flying Johannesburg - The United Association of South Africa (Uasa) said on Wednesday evening that it has just returned from a report back session to its members and that the majority of them want to accept the agreement reached with South African Airways. According to Uasa the agreement means that employees will receive a 6% salary adjustment. Uasa said: "The SA Airways (SAA) strike is over. Back to work "Our members are going back to their jobs, operations should be running smoothly again by Friday." Uasa said its members had accepted an agreement in principle reached with SAA late on Tuesday night. "The agreement means that employees will receive a 6% salary adjustment." This includes a 5% across-the-board adjustment, an adjustment to company contribution to medical and housing allowances, plus an additional one percent non-pensionable adjustment. Gerhard Ueckermann, sector manager for the transport division of Uasa, said the union was glad that the intervention by Minister of Labour Membathisi Mdladlana and the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA) had been successful. Victorious Ueckermann said: "The unions emerged victorious from the conciliation meeting which lasted up to the early hours this morning. "An in principle agreement has been reached, and although we were not entirely happy with it, bearing in mind the sacrifices made by our members during this period, the leadership of the union felt it to be the responsible thing to do and in the best interest of all concerned to recommend the acceptance thereof to the members." The devastating strike, which lasted for six days, is a very expensive lesson on how not to conduct wage negotiations, the union said. Ueckermann said: "We ascribe the cause of the strike directly to SAA management who initially painted a very gloomy picture of the company's affordability to pay, only to announce handsome profits after deadlock has been declared." Workers betrayed He added that this caused the workers to feel betrayed by their management and caused major integrity problems and a break down of trust around the negotiating table. Uasa said it is equally sorry for the inconvenience caused to the public, but that as its members are going back to their jobs, operations should be running smoothly again by Friday. Since the strike started 75% of flights had been cancelled, postponed or delayed. All international and regional flights were cancelled until further notice and domestic flights were being assessed hourly. About 65% of passengers have been re-routed, or accommodated on other flights or by SAA's partners. If an existing online booking falls within the dates affected by the strike, SAA said it would honour the change at the original price paid. Tickets honoured SAA had agreements with airlines to honour tickets issued by SAA and to loan aircraft. SAA flights had also been consolidated where possible. Contingency plans included the training of contract cabin crew for relief on domestic flights and the training of students to man call centres and reservations posts. The airline was also accommodating up to 2000 stranded passengers in hotels around the world. An SAA spokesperson could not be reached immediately for comment. Edited by Adrienne Taylor Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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SAA strike is over, say union officials July 27 2005 at 07:13PM (South African Time) The South African Airways strike is over, the United Association of South Africa (Uasa) said on Wednesday. "Our members are going back to their jobs, operations should be running smoothly again by Friday," the union said in a statement. Uasa said its members had accepted an agreement in principle reached with SAA late on Tuesday night. "The agreement means that employees will receive a six-percent salary adjustment." This includes a five-percent across-the-board adjustment, an adjustment to company contribution to medical and housing allowances, plus an additional one percent non-pensionable adjustment. SAA said it would issue a statement as soon as possible. - Sapa Independent Online http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=594&art_id=qw1122483961329B241 | |||
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SAA strike is over July 27, 2005, 19:30 (South African Time) Labour union Uasa says the SA Airways strike is over and its members will resume work immediately. Uasa says operations should be running smoothly again by Friday. Uasa has accepted an agreement in principle with SAA for a 6% salary adjustment. SAA says it will issue a statement later. The six-day strike has virtually grounded the airline and led to the cancellation of more than a 100 domestic and international flights. Earlier, members of the labour union indicated a willingness to accept the terms of an in-principal agreement reached with SAA. The agreement was the result of marathon talks facilitated by the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA). Uasa and the South African Transport and Allied Worker's Union (Satawu) are to report back to their members throughout today, and meet SAA management tomorrow morning to accept or reject the offer. http://www.sabcnews.com/economy/business/0,2172,109188,00.html | |||
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Union accepts SAA wage offer 28/07/2005 13:01 Johannesburg - The SA Transport and Allied Workers Union (Satawu) has accepted a deadlock-breaking pay offer from South African Airways, a union spokesperson said on Thursday. "There was some resistance, but we took a leadership decision to sign," Ronnie Mamba told Sapa. The other striking union, the United Association of SA, has already said it would sign the agreement. The strike which began on Friday last week brought 75% of the airline's operations to a standstill. Commission for Conciliation Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA) director Edwin Molahleli told reporters at SAA headquarters that the agreement had not yet been signed. "Parties are still doing final consultations," he said. "We are still very hopeful and very optimistic that by the end of today we will have a signed agreement by the two parties." News24/SAPA Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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BREAKING NEWS: SAA strike official over! SOUTH African Airways has announced that the seven-day strike is over. Striking union members will be back at work tomorrow morning (July 29). According to SAA ceo, Khaya Ngqula, the deal was signed a little while ago. Ngqula also confirmed that it would take a little time to clear up the backlog, stating that normal operations would be restored by about 12h00 tomorrow for domestic travel and Saturday for international travel. Agents can resume bookings from tomorrow for both domestic and international flights. Speaking to the media earlier, Ngqula apologised to the travel trade for not communicating with the trade effectively. He attributed this to the strike being the first of its kind at SAA and and a what he termed "a learning curve". Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Kathi, That's got to make your and your clients lives a bit less hectic. -Steve -------- www.zonedar.com If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning DRSS C&H 475 NE -------- | |||
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Kathi still has her hands full. She is working on getting me out of Dulles to JNB. I was on the flight today that was canceled. This is quite the mess. I must say that SAA does not have their act together. You get a different story from each person you talk to. There is very little communication within their own employees, and not much sympathy for people stuck in some strange city. They are putting me up in the Hyatt and giving me $50 a day for food, so I guess it could be worse. Some people have been here since Tuesday. All the other airlines are booked going into JNB so no other option but to wait. Crazy thing is that there are reports of aircraft leaving with empty seats! Explain that to me. Anyhow I will say Kathi has been very helpful and has me on every wait list possible...just waiting for something to break. Thanks Kathi and I am sure I will be talking to you again soon. R ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Subject: OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS UPDATE - OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS July 28, 2005 Dear Travel Partner, South African Airways is pleased to announce a settlement between its unions and the airline. As a result of this agreement, South African Airways (SAA) can now revert back to its normally scheduled operation however, please note that there may be some delays due to the backlog of passengers travelling. Below you will find the latest update of our schedule for Friday July 29, 2005. At present time we are awaiting to get an update on our Atlanta SA209/210 service for the 29th of July and we will update you on it's operational status once we receive a confirmation from our head office. Schedule for Friday July 29, 2005 SA210 ATL SID JNB 1045 --- 1020 A340-600 Update later today SA204 JFK DKR JNB 1755 --- 1705 A340-300 Scheduled Later today we will be sending an update on our Atlanta operations . There will be an updated operations schedule for the weekend on Friday July 29th, 2005 that we will distribute as soon as we have additional information .. SAA would like to take this opportunity to thank all of our partners for their hard work, understanding and patience during this time. Your South African Airways Team Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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UPDATE - OPERATIONAL UPDATE FOR SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS July 28, 2005: 1250h Dear Travel Partner, South African Airways has just confirmed the operation of our Atlanta SA209/210 service for the 29th of July. Schedule for Friday July 29, 2005 SA210 ATL SID JNB 1045 --- 1020 A340-600 Scheduled SA204 JFK DKR JNB 1755 --- 1705 A340-300 Scheduled Please note that there may be a possibility of slight delays due to operational recovery. We will be updating the operations schedule for the weekend on Friday July 29th, 2005. SAA would like to take this opportunity to thank all of our partners for their hard work, understanding and patience during this time. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Kathi, A special thank you for keeping us all up to date on the SAA goings on! ~Ann | |||
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Kathi, I saw an earlier post with the interview with the chairman of the South African Airways Pilots Association and a possible problem with the pilots in a few weeks. Do you have any information about this? I'm scheduled to leave on SAA in a few weeks and my heart doesn't need any more stress. Thanks. "I envy not him that eats better meat than I do; nor him that is richer, or that wears better clothes than I do; I envy him, and him only, that kills bigger deer than I do." Izaak Walton (modified) | |||
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I'm also wondering if there will be a pilot's strike. I haven't booked a flight yet and although there are other airline choices I know SAA hasn't weighed carryon luggage in the 3 trips I've been on. I also like that it's a direct flight. Does anyone know what other airlines don't check your carryon weight? I think I've read BA is very strict about it and mine is around 20-25 lbs. | |||
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It is too early to tell hopefully everyone will have learned a lesson from this last strike and cooler heads will prevail. Any information I receive I will post...... I am also leaving for Zim on Sept 1st!!! Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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In Brief - July 28, 2005 July 28, 2005 SAA raises MPs' ire Furious MPs from all parties yesterday said they planned to "hold SAA management to account" for the way it had handled the strike by ground crew that has cost the country up to R30 million a day and inconvenienced thousands of local and foreign travellers. This came as a solution to the six-day strike was announced, with a 6% settlement package. But there are growing indications that disgruntled pilots could now also square up to management over certain aspects of their contracts. They were not expected to go on strike, but sources said the the "atmosphere is heavy and there might be some kind of industrial action, especially if management takes the same hardline attitude with their demands as it did with the ground crew". Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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SA210 ATL to SID Cancelled 29/07/2005 09:30:00 Staff at the apt just confirmed that SAA has cancelled the ATL flight to-night The flight from Atlanta to JNB on FRIDAY July 29 is CANCELLED. Will post info as I receive it. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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