Thanks for the update Larry.

Cheers
Jim

This is a great start. Social Media is our battlefield.

Also Wayne LaPierre plans to use social media greatly in the future to circumvent the slant of the liberal media regarding 2nd amendment issues.

Jeff

This all looks pretty good!!

Nice that they gave the Cabelas an award...
http://www.americanhunter.org/...rs-leadership-award/

NRA

Now if all hunters and sportsman would join the NRA it would be an absolute real FORCE at about some 20 million level.

That is the idea.

Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

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Originally posted by TexKD:
Now if all hunters and sportsman would join the NRA it would be an absolute real FORCE at about some 20 million level.

Absolutely!

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

This award was for good deeds as opposed to the self flagellating awards for some animal that SCI hands out. So no, I don't think so.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

These are the type of awards that should be given out and celebrated.

You can look for a new hunter recruitment program from the NRA to come out this spring also. Lot going on.

Just to clarify..is he referring to the Golden Bullseye award?

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

This award was for good deeds as opposed to the self flagellating awards for some animal that SCI hands out. So no, I don't think so.

SCI, as a whole, hands out awards that aren't just about an animal... but of course the good work of Chapters is thrown under the bus.

I just think it is ironic that your #1 complaint about SCI is the awards program - and here is NRA handing out an award!! Not that I have anything against the Cabelas - they should be recognised, just as they have been with SCI in the past.

And not that I am a big fan of the (well under-subscribed) Awards Program either - but it has served a purpose in the hunting world - stroking member egos to encourage them to range far and wide.

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Originally posted by nhoro:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

These are the type of awards that should be given out and celebrated.

Exactly. He is just picking fly shit out of the pepper.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

This award was for good deeds as opposed to the self flagellating awards for some animal that SCI hands out. So no, I don't think so.

SCI, as a whole, hands out awards that aren't just about an animal... but of course the good work of Chapters is thrown under the bus.

I just think it is ironic that your #1 complaint about SCI is the awards program - and here is NRA handing out an award!! Not that I have anything against the Cabelas - they should be recognised, just as they have been with SCI in the past.

And not that I am a big fan of the (well under-subscribed) Awards Program either - but it has served a purpose in the hunting world - stroking member egos to encourage them to range far and wide.

Matt:

Most awards but not all are these self congratulatory things for killing the most species of this that or the other . When they get the awards for the world slam of double breasted mattress thrashers, I want to see who has the highest level award. Other than that , this type of award is counterproductive to our cause .

Any awards SCI gives for good deeds, conservation work ,etc I have no problem with.

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Any awards SCI gives for good deeds, conservation work ,etc I have no problem with.

Which must be few and far between as they are hardly ever mentioned, must be in fine print without too much fanfare and behind closed doors.

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Exactly. He is just picking fly shit out of the pepper.

PERFECT!
Mike, can I borrow that line.

Thanks for the update Larry. Really appreciate everything you and Mike et al have been doing.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

This award was for good deeds as opposed to the self flagellating awards for some animal that SCI hands out. So no, I don't think so.

Matt has been so brain washed he religiously believe SCI has a God given ability of never doing anything wrong

I don't know Saeed. I think Matt simply gets tired of the constant piling on SCI. If SCI got Obama impeached and found a cure for cancer, some here would still complain.

SCI does do some good things. They have done so recently. Some of which of never publicized.

I still think the awards is a massive problem for our sport. How many times do we have to see the antis using these awards as ammo against us before we all wake up?

Mike - I guess what you are saying is he is "looking for YOU"? I might suggest he look for a larger specimen, elephant dung, might be more appropriate to describe you?

As far as NRA goes, no doubt they would be a help to ALL hunters by expanding their offerings. They are by no means the magical cure all for what's happening to us these days.

Bye.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by nhoro:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

These are the type of awards that should be given out and celebrated.

Exactly. He is just picking fly shit out of the pepper.

There definitely does seem to be a common thread around here that SCI does nothing right or good, which is nonsense.

On the other hand, it does not do everything that it should either.

SCI should take a page from the NRA and revamp its structure...

But the NRA is hardly without warts either.

I just recently upped to patron life because of their stand here, but I also remember when they sold us up the river 20-30 years ago...

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Unfortunately, that means staying active in the group, whether SCI or the NRA to keep them doing what they are supposed to.

Welcome back Larry. I see you are still struggling to focus on substance and stay away from invective. I hope no one mysteriously deletes your posts this time. Maybe Saeed or Don can provide an explanation.

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Originally posted by crbutler:

SCI should take a page from the NRA and revamp its structure...

To me that is the absolute key to SCI having the ability to have any real influence in the current battle over the future of hunting. They need to dramatically reduce the role and function of the executive committee and bring in a capable, driven professional leadership team to drive change and handle matters on a day to day basis.

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Mike - I guess what you are saying is he is "looking for YOU"? I might suggest he look for a larger specimen, elephant dung, might be more appropriate to describe you?

As far as NRA goes, no doubt they would be a help to ALL hunters by expanding their offerings. They are by no means the magical cure all for what's happening to us these days.

Bye.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by nhoro:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Larry - you dont think it is ironic that one of their first actions was to hand out an Award?

These are the type of awards that should be given out and celebrated.

Exactly. He is just picking fly shit out of the pepper.

Try really hard not to be a bitch will ya?

Jeff

Hopefully the NRA will (tactfully) promote what they have done in the past (and hopefully continuing to do) regarding things like hunting ethics and especially firearm safety. Case in point-I have been a Life Member since I was 18 (I am now 63). The NRA has a fantastic program called the "Eddie Eagle" program that teaches kids basically "if you find a gun-don't touch-leave the room-tell an adult". This program was/is designed for elementary school aged kids. Is it ever allowed in the schools? Hell no, you guessed it, the *^%@# teacher's unions won't allow it. Disclaimer: I have a daughter in law and a son in law that are both teachers. We have had multiple discussions about this. I have three grandkids and I told my son and DIL early on that I was not going to lock up every firearm in my house every time they came to visit. They allowed me to educate my own grandkids with the Eddie Eagle program and guess what-the grandkids are old enough now that they have shared with me that they have been in situations at other kids' houses where they did encounter a loaded firearm and got the other kids to leave it and tell an adult. What is so sad is that if all the schools allowed this program deaths like the kid that was brandishing a toy gun in a park and got shot by police would most likely not happen. OK, off my soapbox.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Welcome back Larry. I see you are still struggling to focus on substance and stay away from invective. I hope no one mysteriously deletes your posts this time. Maybe Saeed or Don can provide an explanation.

Don?