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Snow shovels work.

Snow blowers work better.

Snow plows work best.



Mike

Right from the mouth of a fellow lawyer.

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Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:
Very impressive shooting, Saeed.After years of watching you shooting, I am still amazed at the spped with which you acquire the target and shoot. In one video, you barely looked through the scope and went bang. How do you acquire your target so fast and also get the sights aligned within in a couple of seconds?

The problem of shooting very quickly has been with me as long as I can remember.

All the PHs I have hunted with complain about.

On certain occasions, wen looking at the video afterwards, it does look like that I am shooting very fast.

Trouble is at the time, it looked perfectly normal for me. I look through the scope, take careful aim, and shoot.

It works, and I suppose that is all there is to it.

I have people people complain about this here in the range when I shoot off the bench too.

I cannot understand people going on the sticks, aim at a perfectly standing animal, take what seems like years, before shooting.

I have a friend who is so slow, he was trying to shoot an impala once.

One of our trackers said "if Saeedi is shooting that impala would be in the back of the truck and we are already in camp!"

As you can imagine, making fun of him later was part of the deal.

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The problem of shooting very quickly has been with me as long as I can remember.

Trouble is at the time, it looked perfectly normal for me. I look through the scope, take careful aim, and shoot.

It works, and I suppose that is all there is to it.


I cannot understand people going on the sticks, aim at a perfectly standing animal, take what seems like years, before shooting.

Yep, exactly. That describes me too. If it's good for you then shoot. Once the sticks go up then it's time. If not, the PH will typically say: 'wait to shoot, let me take another look', etc. Why wait an inordinate amount of time and chance to lose or wound the animal to what could then be a poorly placed or iffy shot as it revs up and leaves? I'm constantly screaming at the t.v. when I see people up on the sticks and waiting and waiting to shoot!

Didn't Wally Johnson use a 375 H&H Win M70 for his entire career ?

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I must confess that I have never used a .375 caliber rifle on Cape buffalo.

My chosen buffalo calibers begin with .41's, and better .45's, and best .51's.

It seems that this line of thinking is common among those who disregard the 375 for cape buffalo.

But my questions:
How can you judge the effectiveness of the 375 on buffalo if you haven’t used one, and how can you doubt it’s effectiveness when the evidence from those who have used the 375 seem to show that it is very effective?

Also, your perception is that the .45 works better than the .41, and the .50 works better then the .45, but does that necessarily mean that the .375 will be that much less effective than the larger bores?



The 375 has attributes that differentiate it from most of the big bores: higher velocity, less recoil, larger magazine capacity, along with being arguably easier to shoot accurately, and quicker for follow-up shots. I would add one more attribute that may be responsible for the seeming effectiveness of the 375: being an admittedly marginal round, 375 shooters tend to wait for near perfect shot presentation(you don’t often hear of 375 shooters taking a quartering away first shot at a running buffalo). Whether these attributes are increase or decrease it’s effectiveness is a matter of opinion.

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Page 156, great article "Is bigger always better"

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:


Which calls to mind an apt analogy between snow and buffalo.

Snow shovels work.

Snow blowers work better.

Snow plows work best.

Sound words!!

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:


Which calls to mind an apt analogy between snow and buffalo.

Snow shovels work.

Snow blowers work better.

Snow plows work best.

Sound words!!

Yes.

For snow work.

For hunting, all one has do is look at Cal and Mark Sullivan!

Two perfect example of BIGGER IS BETTER!

Sowing themselves in all their shameful glory!

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Originally posted by 458Win:
Didn't Wally Johnson use a 375 H&H Win M70 for his entire career ?

Yes he did...

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
I must confess that I have never used a .375 caliber rifle on Cape buffalo.

My chosen buffalo calibers begin with .41's, and better .45's, and best .51's.

A Nor'easter bloody blizzard is on its way to my neck of the woods. Supposed to hit us tomorrow, like a mad buffalo charge.

Which calls to mind an apt analogy between snow and buffalo.

Snow shovels work.

Snow blowers work better.

Snow plows work best.

Exactly!

Thanks for sharing those Saeed. I've wondered if the .375 was 'enough gun' and that answered it.

Thank you for posting videos. I was going to use iron sights for my only buffalo hunt someday, but after watching the videos I will be using a scope.

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Originally posted by S.K. Snyder:
Thank you for posting videos. I was going to use iron sights for my only buffalo hunt someday, but after watching the videos I will be using a scope.

That is advisable but you could consider quick detachable mounts?

I have been hunting Africa for 40 years.

Always used fixed scopes, never open sights on my rifles.

Never had a problem with scopes at all.

And at my age, open sights are not an option.

Saeed, I have 2 questions from watching the videos and reading the replies.

1. Is your scope a Leupold, why do you prefer that brand?

2. What would be the minimum caliber you could kill a buff with given a mono bullet and proper shot placement. This from the line "...the lion won't know..."


Thank you for the videos!


Perry

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Originally posted by perry:
Saeed, I have 2 questions from watching the videos and reading the replies.

1. Is your scope a Leupold, why do you prefer that brand?

2. What would be the minimum caliber you could kill a buff with given a mono bullet and proper shot placement. This from the line "...the lion won't know..."


Thank you for the videos!


Perry

Yes, the scope I use is a Leupold.

In fact, I prefer Leupold to any other make.

I have tried every conceivable quality make on the market, and have always preferred Leupolds.

The German's and Austrians make very good scopes, ruined by silly designs.

They make them so complicated they are not worth the hassle.

If there was no legal minimum, I would most probably use one of my own 30 or 270 caliber wildcats.

And I have absolutely, positively, the end results would the same as with my 375.

The scope on this rifle is a 2.5-8X.

Thank you!

Perry

Great video Saeed, Thank you. I have shot four buff, three with a 375HH All one shot kills. The 375HH is a fine killing machine.

It depends on the individual buffalo. The one One I shot was prolly the tuffest sob on the planet. I was actually undergunned with a 450 NE. Only thru sheer courage, accurate shooting, and grim determination was he brought down. At the airport in Buly on the way home I was pulled out of line. I thought, here’s where I get my medal for saving countless lives, going above and beyond. Nope, it was for having a warthog tusk I picked up in my luggage. Sometimes being a hero is a thankless job.

It depends on the individual buffalo

The above statement is very true!

If one's name is Cal or Sullivan, using anything bigger than a 500, the buffalo never dies!

For us normal hunters, a 375 seems to be more than adequate.

Damn, Saeed, your ability to provide a good laugh knows no bounds! THAT'S FUNNY!!

Saeed, you have convinced me.

I may use one of my little .375s when I hunt those little Western Savanna buffalo in Cameroon next year.

Probably my Blaser, at that.

I have rifles in every conceivable caliber, up to the 700 NE.

I have barrels for 14 and 12 caliber too, just have not gotten round to build rifles with them.

I get asked, non stop, why do I use only one rifle, in a minimum caliber.

Very short answer.

IT WORKS!

Some argue that a bigger caliber is required in an emergency.

I beg to differ.

In an emergency, op=ne gets only one chance.

And that requires accurate bullet placement, not size.

I probably have killed more buffalo with head shots than many people shoot in their life time.

Not a single one moved.

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Saeed, you have convinced me.

I may use one of my little .375s when I hunt those little Western Savanna buffalo in Cameroon next year.

Probably my Blaser, at that.

Way to go!
Blaser is instant death to Mr. Black Death!

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
It depends on the individual buffalo. The one One I shot was prolly the tuffest sob on the planet. I was actually undergunned with a 450 NE. Only thru sheer courage, accurate shooting, and grim determination was he brought down. At the airport in Buly on the way home I was pulled out of line. I thought, here’s where I get my medal for saving countless lives, going above and beyond. Nope, it was for having a warthog tusk I picked up in my luggage. Sometimes being a hero is a thankless job.

That is pretty funny

I was told by a professional hunter that he had two friends from Argentina, who both had 458 Winchester magnum rifles.

They liked to hunt together.

One particular buffalo took 27 rounds from those two to put it down!

He said "Saeed, those two would hate your bloody GUTS! Killing four buffalo with four shots. And with a 375 too!"

I wonder if many who’ve been following this thread have given any thought to how many buffalo, and elephants, have been shot with the .375 H&H throughout Africa over the years by game department’s in culling and PAC work, as well as commercial meat hunting operations. On top of this, now add in all those who’ve shot them with this caliber while sport hunting. Finally, remember how many years head start the .375 had over the .458 and other big bore cartridges that have followed.

I’m quite confident that more buffalo have been shot with .375 caliber bullets than any other, and the heavy preponderance of those with the H&H version. So, yeah, it’s adequate.

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Originally posted by DLS:
I wonder if many who’ve been following this thread have given any thought to how many buffalo, and elephants, have been shot with the .375 H&H throughout Africa over the years by game department’s in culling and PAC work, as well as commercial meat hunting operations. On top of this, now add in all those who’ve shot them with this caliber while sport hunting. Finally, remember how many years head start the .375 had over the .458 and other big bore cartridges that have followed.

I’m quite confident that more buffalo have been shot with .375 caliber bullets than any other, and the heavy preponderance of those with the H&H version. So, yeah, it’s adequate.

And the 9.3 x 62 prior to the .375

I have not argued, and will not argue, but will readily concede, that the .375 H&H Magnum, or its equivalent in .375 caliber, is adequate for Cape buffalo, bearing in mind, of course, the proper definition of "adequate":

"adequate" - adjective - able to fulfil a need or requirement without being abundant, outstanding, etc.

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
I have not argued, and will not argue, but will readily concede, that the .375 H&H Magnum, or its equivalent in .375 caliber, is adequate for Cape buffalo, bearing in mind, of course, the proper definition of "adequate":

"adequate" - adjective - able to fulfil a need or requirement without being abundant, outstanding, etc.

If we are going to play with words, I used the word ADEQUATE because that is what people ask.

In my case, and based on my own long experience, the 375 is PERFECT

Thank you for posting all the videos! I really like the shooting on the running buffalo! That's impressive.

Two questions:

Who is keeping track of the buffs in the herd that are not the one you are after but are giving you the stink eye?

I understand they have more than a few snakes there, and that some of them are rather aggressive. Who's watching for them while you are running through the brush trying to keep an eye on the buffalo you just put a hole in?

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Originally posted by miles58:
Thank you for posting all the videos! I really like the shooting on the running buffalo! That's impressive.

Two questions:

Who is keeping track of the buffs in the herd that are not the one you are after but are giving you the stink eye?

I understand they have more than a few snakes there, and that some of them are rather aggressive. Who's watching for them while you are running through the brush trying to keep an eye on the buffalo you just put a hole in?

We keep track of the one we are after, and after the shot several things might happen.

Generally they run off a bit and stop, then take off.

Other times they might just look at the fallen one.

Sometimes, they gather around it, and actually some bulls try to gore it.

We see plenty of snakes, including black mamba, cobra and others.

never bother any of us.

Sometimes we actually have to have to almost jump over them, as we see them too late.

Puff adders are the worst to see.

The snakes maybe don't bother you, but watching people running through the brush and knowing that there has to be large, venomous and maybe aggressive snakes there bothers the hell out of me. After watching that I am still a little twitchy.

I am impressed with the performance of your bullets!

Thanks again

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Originally posted by miles58:
The snakes maybe don't bother you, but watching people running through the brush and knowing that there has to be large, venomous and maybe aggressive snakes there bothers the hell out of me. After watching that I am still a little twitchy.

I am impressed with the performance of your bullets!

Thanks again

How many Africa related snakebite incidents, fatal or non fatal, involving clients are there on record?

Near misses maybe but likely too few to mention.

On several occasions, I was within inches of snakes in Africa.

One of our hunters is absolutely petrified of crocs!

He went ballistic when one day we were back in camp for lunch after shooting several buffalo, and decided to remain there for the rest of the day.

I went swimming in the river!

He was screaming his head off!

He got his sat phone and was talking to his wife, telling her I was swimming in the river the night before we counted 35 crocs in!

I flew the drone before, looking for crocs.

Never saw a single one anywhere.

They just come out at night.

Ah, yes. But it's the one you don't see that'll get you.

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Originally posted by fulvio:
A standard .375 is marginal but I recently discovered a new load that puts the common 375 into a different class.

I had a group of clients 2 of whom showed up with a 375 and I thought to myself: "the fun begins".

Well, they had Norma ammo loaded with 350 grain bullets, in appearance and later in performance similar to Woodleighs. I had already mentioned this in an earlier post and the combination is definitely a game changer.

Dear sir,

Was this factory Norma ammo called Norma PH ? This factory ammo is loaded with bullets of 350 grain Woodleigh solids and soft.

Could you please explain a little bit about the expression Game changer ? I am asking since I have obtained some 375 Norma PH ammo intended for my Rigby rifle in 375 HH and thought I could test that on a buffalo like animal...


Thanks,
Morten

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Originally posted by Saeed:
On several occasions, I was within inches of snakes in Africa.

One of our hunters is absolutely petrified of crocs!

He went ballistic when one day we were back in camp for lunch after shooting several buffalo, and decided to remain there for the rest of the day.

I went swimming in the river!

He was screaming his head off!

He got his sat phone and was talking to his wife, telling her I was swimming in the river the night before we counted 35 crocs in!

I flew the drone before, looking for crocs.

Never saw a single one anywhere.

They just come out at night.

I won't go swimming in waters with great whites in them. I won't go swimming in waters with gators or crocs of any kind or size in them. I watched a researcher in the Farallons using a full sized surfboard as a monstrous jerk bait on a Nat Geo special once. That fool hauled his "jerk bait" out using a 14 foot boat which wasn't much wider or longer than the "jerk bait". Talk about needing a bigger boat! Watching his video taken with a camera mounted on the "jerk bait" was more than plenty enough education for me.

You do know that those crocs can stay down in the water you are swimming in for probably longer than your drone batteries will keep it up taking pictures I hope.

All I have to worry about is wolves and bears here. No venomous snakes! The wolves and bears won't bother you so life is good. Those buffalo look to be as bad tempered as the Holstein bulls around here, and I have known a few of them where the farmer just had enough of them and their attitude and they got shot too. Sneaking around in brush with the snakes looking for a buffalo who has reason to dislike you and may wish some retribution on you? That's a little different, at least you have a gun. And a chance of defending yourself.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
On several occasions, I was within inches of snakes in Africa.

One of our hunters is absolutely petrified of crocs!

He went ballistic when one day we were back in camp for lunch after shooting several buffalo, and decided to remain there for the rest of the day.

I went swimming in the river!

He was screaming his head off!

He got his sat phone and was talking to his wife, telling her I was swimming in the river the night before we counted 35 crocs in!

I flew the drone before, looking for crocs.

Never saw a single one anywhere.

They just come out at night.

How come we shoot them in the daylight????
Zombie Crocs come out at night.
The normal crocs wait in the river for a juicy, plump appetizer to swim by.
You do not qualify....

Now Walter is another story...

It wouldn't be legal if it weren't adequate. The 9.3x62 is legal in most places so it's adequate too.
The 35 whelen is not legal for buff but is it adequate?