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Since he has tried to call me out for the honest hunting report that I posted here Roll Eyes how about we take a look at some of his claims. He may be real but any rational person would have their doubts.

He's Marine Corps Special Ops and was killing guys while I was still in diapers yet I sent him 2 PMs which the tough guy refuses to answer. My name and address have been posted on here yet he is afraid to reveal his to me or anyone else, yet calls me a coward.



Perhaps he can regale us with his tales of his arresting poachers and burning their camps as he did for the guys over at thehighroad forums:

"I am new to this forum but not new to hunting, Elephants and other animals, and am certainly not new to hunting Africa in particular, having done safari more than a dozen times, covering many of the sub-Saharan countries. I count many contemporary African hunters, writers and film makers among my friends and acquaintances.

Unless one has seen firsthand the damage a herd of Elephant can do to an ecosystem, it is hard to understand the problem. I have driven for the better part of an hour through a Mopani forrest where every tree within sight on both sides of the road had been broken. This was not done for food but rather just a quirk of Elephant behavior. Any other animals in that forrest who required the Mopani for survival was now endangered.

There is no simple answer to the Elephant question, but to date, sport hunting has proven to provide funding and motivation to both government and local inhabitants showing that the Elephant has a value to them on the land rather than in the stew pot. This is the first step in eliminating poaching.

I have arrested poachers and burned their camps and removed their inhumane traps while on safari. I have culled animals gravely injured by such traps who would have only gotten sicker and suffered additional torment before starving to death or succumbing to their wounds. I have done so while accompanied by a government game scout, whose salary and per diem is paid for by me through the costs of the safari. These game scouts and rangers wouldn't be there if not for the sport hunters, they would not have a job nor would they be able to support their extended families.

There are many problems in Africa and no simple solutions. I look forward to writing more about my favorite place in the future."

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5091255


or how about some pics of all of the world record animals he has killed in Africa that he apparently has no pictures of when asked to produce them:


"I have an original S&W 500 in 8 3/8 bbl. Have fired over between 1500-2000 rounds at a 60-40 mix of heavy-light loads. I've taken it to Africa twice and killed a Cape Buffalo in Mozambique as well as a world record #1 Suni. In Zambia I took two new world record antelope with it as well.

I have purchased a second 500 4" and a 460 8 3/8. I have had no problems with any of the S&W X-frames. When hunting with them I do not carry a rifle, so I am putting my life behind the S&W revolvers, literally.

I also have world record African animals from a Ruger .480 Super Redhawk used prior to the S&W 500. The Ruger is nowhere near the gun nor the caliber of the S&W.

I note, as have others, that Socrates has a lot to say on many subjects. I also note that he never states his qualifications, not in his posts nor in his profile. Consequently, I choose to pay little attention to his opinions, which is all he's got.

Semper Fi"


http://www.thefiringline.com/f...=3015907#post3015907


"By way of experience, I have taken a new world record #1 Red Duiker, a #3 Puku, a #1 Chobe Bushbuck and a Cape Buffalo in Africa, all with the S&W X-Frame revolver.

Yeah, I really, really like the S&W X-Frame revolvers. Currently have 3 and thinking about another if I sell the 8 3/8" 500."

http://www.thefiringline.com/f...wthread.php?t=278000


He apparently knows little about rifles and handloading as evidenced by this BS about handloads:

"For Castnblast and all the other handloaders out there.

First, I am not a handloader as I never saw the need to be one. I understand the hobby for what it is. Hunting, however, does not require sub-minute of angle hits. The heart/lung shot on most game is what is desired, so if you can place all your hits within a 3-5" circle at 100 yards, you will make one shot kills while hunting big game. My factory Browning A-Bolt .300wm shoots 1.5" at 100 yards with factory ammunition. An Elephants brain is about the size of a loaf of bread and they are shot at less than 20 yards. A Crocodile "brain" is the size of a tennis ball and they are shot at less than 50 yards.

I am considered by others to be a very good shot. I fired possible at 200 yards offhand with the issued M14 rifle and standard service ammo and qualified USMC Expert. I regularly make one shot kills at 250-350 yards on medium sized antelope - think whitetails. I generally average over 90% one shot kills on safari. I also miss sometimes.

Most African PHs will discourage you from bringing handloads on safari. They have seen too many problems. They all encourage the use of premium bonded bullets. With the use of modern proprietary powder - unavailable to the handloader - and premium bonded bullets, commercial premium ammunition provides the degree of accuracy required for hunting. Larry Barnett of Superior Ammunition loads for most of the gun writers and for many African PHs. You can send him your rifle and he will design a specific load to meet your needs, should you feel that is necessary. He will also provide sample packs of 4 different loads for you to try, to determine which shoots best for you in your rifle.

I have seen commercial ammunition failures - a .375H&H Federal premium solid that failed to penetrate the skull of a Hippo and lodged just under the skin in 1999, creating a mess that needed sorting out. I have also seen failures with handloaded ammunition result in catastrophic failure and injury.

I don't believe bonded premium bullets are required for deer hunting in NA, but when I travel to New Zealand later this year for Red Deer, Thar and Chamois, you can be assured I will be taking along premium bonded core ammunition loaded by Superior Ammunition. To do otherwise would be foolish."


http://www.thefiringline.com/f...=2677410#post2677410


He also stops bad guys with a .380 ACP

"What is your definition and intent as to a SD/PD gun? My definition means I am not shooting until the bad guy(s) are within 3 yards of me (give or take). I have no intention on shooting at the 7-11 robbery perp from the rear of the store - it isn't my store and he's no threat to me!

A .380 is plenty of gun for my purposes. The last victim of a .380 I dealt with was an armed robber of a pharmacy - looking for drugs, not money - who took one round of .380 Silver Tip in the stomach at about 10 feet. He went down, managed to get out and to a local hospital, where he went DOW on the table. The M.D. who was working on him told me the bullet entered and completely tore-up the internal organs without exiting. Sounds like pretty damn good terminal performance to me.

I have carried my PPK/S .380 for over 30 years without concern. Sometimes I carry a Beretta Mdl 21 loaded with CCI Stingers, when conditions restrict the carry of the .380. I am convinced that nobody wants to continue to fight with a face full of Stingers.

You must consider liability in the use of your SD/PD weapon. What is the threat distance and are you reasonably in great and immediate fear for your life or that of others? Also, be aware of how many rounds you have available, especially if you find yourself in a mall type shooting incident, as the odds are the perp brought plenty of ammo and the best you may be able to hope to accomplish is to keep him from killing more people before the cavalry arrives.

BTW, use the ball ammo for range work and carry a decent hollow point that functions 100% in your .380."


http://www.thefiringline.com/f...=2686128#post2686128



And lastly this classic exercise in plagiarized bullshit lifted entirely from Capstick's books:

"I will tell you flat out that wounded Leopard is the most dangerous of the Big 5 and the least likely to make your PH a happy camper. You see, ethics and the law require you to go after wounded game until you either find it or further follow-up becomes impossible. In Africa, if you wound it, you've bought it, whether you find it or not. Leopard is currently around $2000 and up. And you don't get to try for another, even if you have the $$$.

Leopard are most frequently shot out of a tree where they are feeding on a bait you have put up. Range is usually 25-50 yards and you shoot from a hasty built blind. Leopard most often show-up at last light or are caught still on bait at first light. Silence in the blind is absolute; they have incredible hearing and will spook easily if they think something is out of the ordinary.

Ideally you select one rosette (spot) just above and slightly behind the front shoulder, as your point of aim. Find it by following the front leg up into the body and then moving towards the rear just a bit. Cats have a different physiology than antelope. A .30-06 or .300wm (my choice) is proper Leopard medicine. At the shot, Old Spots will usually fall from the tree into the knee high grass. You won't get a second shot and you won't see him move off if you've only wounded him. You are advised in the strongest terms to spend the next 10-30 minutes sitting quietly in the blind. This in hopes Chui was well hit and will bleed out or, if hit poorly, that he will begin to stiffen-up from his wound.

When you approach the bottom of the tree (carefully) with your rifle (or the 12ga pump gun loaded with 3" magnum 00 clad shot you brought along for just this eventuality) you will discover whether you've done your job correctly. If not, you have encountered one of the most frighteningly dangerous eventualities of safari - tracking a wounded Leopard (most likely in the dark). Your PH may or may not allow you to accompany him and a tracker into the bush.

A wounded Leopard will attempt to ambush you. He will go off a ways, circle back and hide in the bush, where he will literally dig in his hind feet to provide starting blocks for his death charge. He may let the tracker pass by before charging the hunters, and when he comes it will be at blazing speed. You will maybe have one shot before he hits someone. He will jump, placing his forepaws on the victims shoulders and using his hind paws to sink claws into the abdomen and then rake your guts out onto your shoes, while chewing on an arm or shoulder. He may immediately move towards another target. I know of cases where 3 separate hunters were hit within a matter of seconds by the same wounded and ****** Leopard.

Leopard mauling is very serious. The main issue is infection caused by the dead and putrid meat beneath the animals claws and in its' mouth. Evacuation is rarely an easy option in Africa. I have hunted areas where I knew it would require being carried a few miles distance to a vehicle followed by a multi-hour drive to a dirt airstrip followed by a multi hour flight to a medical facility for initial treatment, usually followed by an even longer flight to a proper hospital.

So, shoot straight!"

http://www.thefiringline.com/f...=2676226#post2676226
 
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Andy,

Give it a rest.

All you have done so far is show yourself in the worst possible light, and I honestly cannot imagine any individual with any self respect who will go to the lengths you have gone to reflect so badly on yourself.

I know there is talk of your right to free speech. That is your right in your country as a tax paying individual.

On AR you do not pay a penny, and we don't expect you to, and therefore have to abide by our rules, which are NOT negotiable.

We ask all members to be civil to each other. I know, things sometimes get out of hand, and we let things go, and people generally appologize get back to talking about what we like best, hunting.

You, on the other hand, have taken it on yourself to start threads which are nothing but antagonistic to others.

It seems I am not the only one who does not like what you are doing.

So I suggest you take my advice and give it a rest.


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Saeed,

Lionhunter was anything but civil to me but that is beside the point, read what I posted and what he has posted on other sites and tell me that you think this guy is legit and not a troll.

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You have a problem with LionHunter, take it off line and deal with it.


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You have a problem with LionHunter, take it off line and deal with it.


That's funny, he wasn't asked to take his problem with me off line.

What about all the World Record animals?
 
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Originally posted by Saeed:
You have a problem with LionHunter, take it off line and deal with it.


That's funny, he wasn't asked to take his problem with me off line.

What about all the World Record animals?


Maybe he killed them “out of necessity,so that we could eat”. Roll Eyes


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