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These are pictures of ivory that my wife's late uncle took. I'll provide details of the ivory and when/where it was taken. You guess the weight and country of origin before I tell you the real weight and country.

This me standing next to the right tusk. Base circumference is approximately 18". I am 6'3" and 235 lbs for reference.



The top of my hand is 8'.



Inside view of left tusk.



Inside view of right tusk.



Outside view of right tusk.



Oustide view of left tusk.

 
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Kenya. 80lbs on the left tusk and 70 on the right. The right is much shorter and was the ele's working tusk, but it is thicker too and holds its diameter while the left tusk tapers more quickly.

My guess, worth what you paid for it!

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I would guess 72 lbs each, from Kenya(or Tanzania).

The left tusk must be close to 7ft long on the outside of the curve. It is hard to guess the weight because I am used to the thicker tusks from Zim that tend to taper and have large nerve cavities.

You could say these tusks carry their weight out towards the tip. And I think the shorter right tusk does. But the other tusk though longer, is quite thin overall.

Jason


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Fair is fair. The right tusk is about 5' to the lip line and the right 6'. The left has a much deeper curve.
 
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depending on the nerve ... i would call it as 60# or just over. east african ivory i would say.

just a guess !!!


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East Africa (Tanzania) left - 62 and right - 58.


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Originally posted by 450/400:
I am 6'3" and 235 lbs for reference.

The top of my hand is 8'.



I would have guessed 6'5" and 210lbs. Wink
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Depending on the length of the nerve, I' d say about 62, and 65 # for a short nerve, and 56 58 for a long nerve! Confused

Hell I don't know I'm not an ele hunter! bewildered


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That's the point! I concocted this idea after seeing folks speculate on ivory weight whenever somebody posts a picture and doesn't provide the weight.

I thought it would be fun to see how who could get it right. I should have asked the pros to hold their votes! Keep them coming. This won't long, I promise!
 
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61# left and 52# right. No expert...but put some reasonab;e engineering to what I have garnered from the experts' posts. Big Grin

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I will say one is 78 and the other 72....
450/400 hope you have the answer.. animal


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It would be cruel if I didn't! Although Scott did make me laugh!
 
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61# left and 52# right. No expert...but put some reasonab;e engineering to what I have garnered from the experts' posts. Big Grin

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It's just a guess, but 69X73 and I'd say Kenya. I think this was a great idea and a lot of fun.

I'll be real interested to hear any details.
 
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I'll post the details at the end of the weekend.
 
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I'll post the details at the end of the weekend.

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90 and 97 Tanzania
 
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OK. 76 lbs on the right and 73 left.
 
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58 and 64
 
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Big enough for me to look at them as "my trophy tusks". In my book that is all that counts.

I'm not gouing to venture a guess at all. Wonder how some guesses would have been different if a lot of 'old Pros' all intentionally posted 20 lb heavier [or lighter]than what they really thought? Big Grin

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61 lbs right tusk, 64 left tusk. Kenya, 1974. my wife's uncle took the elephant, cape buffalo, lion and various plains game.
 
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61 lbs right tusk, 64 left tusk. Kenya, 1974. my wife's uncle took the elephant, cape buffalo, lion and various plains game.

1974 was a dam good year Wink
 
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depending on the nerve ... i would call it as 60# or just over. east african ivory i would say.

just a guess !!!


I guess that's why he's the Pro!

Big Grin

Jason


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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Depending on the length of the nerve, I' d say about 62, and 65 # for a short nerve, and 56 58 for a long nerve! Confused

Hell I don't know I'm not an ele hunter! bewildered


They fell right below your heavy guess. Not to bad.

Jason


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"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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Ivan is a show-off. Big Grin

I'm sticking to designing buildings....it's obvious I can't guess ivory weight. On the other hand, I guessed a bit low, so the hunter would have been excited as I would have been conservative!

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Ivan is a show-off.

rather to be lucky than good ! Big Grin thumb


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I've heard you are both!
 
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Would that be a lucky show off?

jumping


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Would that be a lucky show off?

Big Grin animal


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