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One from a 500 and one from a 450, and different shot placements don't make for a test or comparison.I drove a Hornady from my 458 Lott through most of a Cape buffalo, and the bullet could have been reloaded again. What did my shot prove? Other than one dead buffalo, not much.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Larry, these are the two CEBs recovered from my last tuskless cow. 750gr 577NE.

The one one the left was recovered from the cow's jaw, just as your DGS was. The one on the right was recovered along the spine, just in front of the tail after a frontal brain shot.

Big difference in the two bullets, your's and mine, that were stopped by the jaw!

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
F.Y.I., The jaw bode is one of the least dense bones in an animals body. They are mostly hollow and provide little resistance to a bullet. Now the teeth particularly the molars are the most dense and hardest bones. When an animal is cremated, the most likely bone to survive are the molars.

465H&H

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
F.Y.I., The jaw bode is one of the least dense bones in an animals body. They are mostly hollow and provide little resistance to a bullet. Now the teeth particularly the molars are the most dense and hardest bones. When an animal is cremated, the most likely bone to survive are the molars.

465H&H

Look at the evidence above and you will see that the jawbone is the strongest-stop making things up.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
F.Y.I., The jaw bode is one of the least dense bones in an animals body. They are mostly hollow and provide little resistance to a bullet. Now the teeth particularly the molars are the most dense and hardest bones. When an animal is cremated, the most likely bone to survive are the molars.

465H&H

Look at the evidence above and you will see that the jawbone is the strongest-stop making things up.

George, how many elephant have you shot? Just trying to establish your credibility to comment.

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
F.Y.I., The jaw bode is one of the least dense bones in an animals body. They are mostly hollow and provide little resistance to a bullet. Now the teeth particularly the molars are the most dense and hardest bones. When an animal is cremated, the most likely bone to survive are the molars.

465H&H

Look at the evidence above and you will see that the jawbone is the strongest-stop making things up.

George, how many elephant have you shot? Just trying to establish your credibility to comment.

Are you scared I might know something you don't?

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Simply shoot just Barnes and CEB bullets and you won't have to worry about having results like those posted by Mr. Shores. And if you shoot the above bullets from an R8 Blaser you are guaranteed even better results.

Larry Sellers
SCI(International)Life Member
R8 Blaser

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Originally posted by lavaca:
While I believe it creates issues with respect to same point of impact with softs and solids, I have begun to favor mono metal solids. The cored "solids" can deform and if they do they will divert.

Ideally, your softs and solids will be near same point of impact at the anticipated ranges and in my limited experience, with .45 caliber, that's not much of a problem. I suspect that is because we are talking 100 yard max range and because the softs and solids are both round nosed (or flat or cupped).

When you step down to a .416 (and I suspect the problem would also exist in a .375) the difference between a spire point soft and a round nosed or flat tipped solid could well affect your point of impact at 100 and 200 yards. (I'm in the same group out to 50 yards, but at 100 and especially at 200, the solids begin to hit significantly lower than the softs in my .416).

This is likely to only be an issue when you are using a solid on something small and not close. I always check zeros for softs and solids at various ranges, but it could save you some heartache.

While figuring out your different point of impact between your softs and solids at 100 and 200 yards may be tedious, when you choose to use a solid on something small at a distance, it could spell the difference between success and a miss.

With my .416, sighted dead on at 100 with Swift A-Frames: It will put the softs and solids in the same hole at 50 yards. At 100, the solids are 1 inch low. I can't explain it, but it's true. I haven't shot the solids at 200 and probably won't get the opportunity to before I leave in a couple of weeks. But I'm going to be reticent to take a shot beyond 100 yards with solids.

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
Barnes solids ( and xxx ) and never any slightest problems.
Yes, others perform well enough, but in the moment of truth? " BARNES "

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Originally posted by Skyline:

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
Barnes solids ( and xxx ) and never any slightest problems.
Yes, others perform well enough, but in the moment of truth? " BARNES "

Fill me in BK...... thought you south of the 49th cannot use Barnes solids. I probably have been in the bush to long and missed something on here.

CEB's......... outstanding!

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
F.Y.I., The jaw bode is one of the least dense bones in an animals body. They are mostly hollow and provide little resistance to a bullet. Now the teeth particularly the molars are the most dense and hardest bones. When an animal is cremated, the most likely bone to survive are the molars.

465H&H

Look at the evidence above and you will see that the jawbone is the strongest-stop making things up.

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

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