my friend and i are wanting to go africa and hunt. i want to go for buffalo and i think he also does amoung others like kudu. does any one know if we whould have to get two safaris or can we hunt on a single two buff hunt????
thanks

yes, you can do a 2 X1 hunt no problem. I would think a 2x1 buffalo hunt with PG should be no problem.

Yes too your answer,

I have a area in Mozambique, where you can hnt buffalo and your frien can do plains game,

10 Days Buffalo, Hippo & Croc USD 15000

October or November 2008

Yes, no problem.

the caution being that if either or both of you are very competitive it can make two friends into enemies. that said if you get along together well it'll more fun than alone. the hunting isn't a problem at all

We don't recommend 2x1 for the reasons that butchloc brought up. Particularly on a short hunt 2x1 can be a problem. Say you book a 7 day buff hunt. The hunter that you have decided will take the first buff on day three wounds a buffalo and it takes 2 more days to find the buffalo or decide that it cannot be found. That leaves the other hunter 2 days to hunt his buffalo. Also often a 2x1 only saves you $50 per day. It's not worth it unless it is very important that each member of the 2x1 shares the whole safari with the partner.

Mark

1x1 is the way to go, It is worth the extra money!

You can still be in the same camp, just have your own PH.

What Mark said. Unless you have hunted together (side by side) for years, and get along well, I'd go 1x1. You'll both have different stories to share with each other forever. Doesn't save that much $$ as mentioned, and what if a giant trophy pops into view? Who gets it? Think about it. You should both discuss this and look at both sides: pro's and con's. Good hunting, David

Maybe you should look at hunting 2x2, each with your own PHs but out of the same camp.

I think he's asking if two guys can "split" a single hunt! One hunter, one observer pricing.

I has been done in Tanzania for sure and probably elsewhere too. Either way Tanzania is not going to be cheap though.

Les

You can get away with a 2x1 if it's you and your kid, assuming you are not a competitor with your kid.

2x1 is an especially bad idea on your first safari I would think.

I've done a 2x1 with my boy and with my son-in-law because I didn't care, and just stood to the side while they did their thing.

In 99.9% of the cases though 2x1 is a really bad idea.

A lot of hunts in Tanzania are 2x1 buff hunts and so far were 100% on kills...We have a lot of clients that have been hunting with the same guy for years and want to hunt "together"....Also we have lots of buffalo.

I can see where it could be a problem if you were not really good friends or father and son or whatever, in that one of you would shoot a better buffalo, not doubt about that..

On a 7 day hunt you probably shouldn't be as picky trophy wise and the first shooter should take the first decent bull he sees that has a decent spread and nice boss...Also you both might not get all your plainsgame that is allowed on a 7 day hunt....A 10 day 2x1 is pretty much a cinch for two really nice trophy buffalo.

A 1x1 is best if your an avid trophy hunter and don't want to sit and watch your partner kill a 44 inch buffalo because he got first shot, but many clients are not into shooting the biggest and best and are more into the hunting and comraderie that goes with hunting with a friend..these are good hunts IMO...

I would say it depends on the hunters, it can add to your hunt or take away from it..I love to hunt 2x1 with some of my friends..

Also it costs less money to hunt 2x1...My point being it's not an open and shut case for a 1x1 hunt...

I suspect there are more 2x1 hunts booked for buffalo than 1x1 by a long shot...

The price difference between a 2x2 and 2x1 hunt isn't much % wise.

Just because its 2x2 doesn't mean you can't hunt together all day everyday.

If you book 2x2 you can hunt together when you want to and split up when you want to or "need" to.

The flexibility is worth the relatively small % price difference.

JPK

I also think the poster was wanting to pay for one hunt (ie one daily rate) but "split the bag". If I am wrong, please ignore the rest of this.

This has been done but most operators don't allow it. We have done it for husbands whose wives (or kids) want to shoot one or two animals (but they often shoot more). We ask the hunters to nominate who will hunt and who will observe each day. In other words, there is one rifle on any specific day.

We draw the line at two guys piling into the Cruiser with rifles expecting to pay only one daily rate (and an observer rate).

We know an outfit in Tanzania who does split the bag but they charge each hunter a fairly stiff daily rate...it's really a 2x1 hunt.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Maybe you should look at hunting 2x2, each with your own PHs but out of the same camp.

That is my choice as well, especially if one is booking a hunt of less than 14 days!

I've been on two on one safaris, with close friends, and they worked out fine. However, we had a rule up front, about who shoots first, on the maine animals (in our case Buffalo).

It worked like this! We flipped a coin on the first day of hunting, to see who had first shot, however, if an animals was spotted, and turned down by the winner of first pick, it fell to the other guy to take that animal, if he wanted. Once that was passed by both, the first shot remained with the coin toss. If the animal was taken by the coin toss winner, the next shot went to the coin toss loser. Again if an animals was spotted, and tiurned down by the now first chooser, it fell to the second guy, and so on.

These things are best done with people you know very well, and with safari companies, and PHs with whom you have hunted with before, because agreement from all parties is essential. IMO, the best is a 2X2 however!

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Although my hunting partner and I hunt 2x1 and have for over 25 years, we've seen the problems of these hunts when the two hunters' "real" attitudes come out. NEVER hunt 2x1 on your first guided hunt. Too many foibles to deal with.
My partner and I flip a coin for who has the first shot on each animal, equaling out who is first. If that person does not want a specific animal found and wants to wait, the other has the option of shooting. On hunts with more than one species, one of us usually wants something a little more and we set it up so each has a chance at their preferred trophy.

I agree with what has been stated about 1x1 hunts being the best bang for the buck, especially in Africa. However, when my hunting partner and I have had to do 2x1 hunts, we have flipped for first shot but have always used the "right of first refusal" method. If we come upon a trophy (say a decent antelope of some sort) and the shooter is looking for something bigger, he will give the next guy the option to take the animal. This has worked out well for us when one of us was looking for something special and the other wasn't. Of course this wouldn't work well for certain species such as elephant, but then who would try a 2x1 for them anyway.