I just paid $ 4.11 a gallon in Southern California and I know the prices are higher in Southern Africa. Any of you PH's out there making your clients walk more to help save money? We tend to be overweight anyway and could use the exercise. Just wondering.

if a PH makes you walk more to save on fuel, you are hunting with the wrong outfit!!

I wonder what we will debate next!!!

Mike, I'm rolling on the floor.

jdollar and reddy375, you guys need to find your senses of humor!

Speaking only for myself, I TELL the PH at the outset that I want to walk. As in spot and stalk. Or track and stalk.

NO truck stalking or worse, truck shooting.

Unfortunately, some of them need to hear that.

You mean like from the airport?

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Originally posted by fairgame:
You mean like from the airport?

Now that's getting serious..

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Originally posted by fairgame:
You mean like from the airport?

Damn straight, from the airstrip!

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Originally posted by fairgame:
You mean like from the airport?

NAH!! Donkey cart to and from the airport,[allow an extra four days travel] on foot from the lodge anywhere. The day fees will now include extra for the fuel to run the genny. If you elect not to pay, just bring your own candles.

Yep, there will be changes for sure

We have acquired a couple of tandem bycycles, local on the front pedalling, client on the back,

For the Luxury safaris, we have also added the donkey/ox cart for those gentelmen too lazy too walk,

and bugger those shitty short 5,7,12 day hunts, those Wallmart days re over boys, now we walk, and carry back what we shoot everyday as well.

So fit up, shut up and get with the program

Pogo sticks might be a good alternative as they'd let you see over the tall elephant grass....

If they really want to save fuel then they would by a Land Rover.

Not to worry...Obama has approved a subsidy electric Rovers / Cruisers for use in the bush.

See, he has saved the day once again!

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Originally posted by ozhunter:
If they really want to save fuel then they would by a Land Rover.

Real fuel savers on account they spend so much time in the repair shop!

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Originally posted by Scriptus:
Real fuel savers on account they spend so much time in the repair shop!

Just remind me what vehicle you were welding back together the other week after if hit a bit if bad road and fell apart?



It's never over in a Rover mate!

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Originally posted by Scriptus:

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Originally posted by ozhunter:
If they really want to save fuel then they would by a Land Rover.

Real fuel savers on account they spend so much time in the repair shop!

LOL! I hope it never goes so bad, that I will have to drive a Land Rover...

Adam, I did hear that some are offering a new Aussie Plan, they don't charge a day rate but do bill clients by the case.

Question, is it legal to shoot from the back of a bicycle?

Red

John Sharpe does not have a car and conducts all his safaris on foot. The old way.

From the looks of some of the "hunters" recently on even the more prominent hunting shows, a bit (lots of) walking would be in order. Can't believe how overweight, out of shape lots of folks everywhere are.
Definitely not a food shortage for a lot of folks yet.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

I always thought of the vehicule as being an important part in the hunt.Not only can you cover large areas walking and searching but you do the same driving and searching for animal signs etc...Spending alot of fuel can be a good thing.

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Just remind me what vehicle you were welding back together the other week after if hit a bit if bad road and fell apart?



It's never over in a Rover mate!

A bit of bad road?? Forty k's of first and second gear on what was a road and is now transformed into a dry river bed. Besides, it was only the exhaust that had to repaired. And the old girl is twenty-one years old this year.

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Originally posted by Scriptus:
the old girl is twenty-one years old this year.

Just a youngster mate! - Wait till she's thirty one years old like my baby!



Actually, joking aside for a moment, has anyone seen the new Landcruiser yet?

the new one with NO head lights or the new one with the passenger side door and seat ejectors?????

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
From the looks of some of the "hunters" recently on even the more prominent hunting shows, a bit (lots of) walking would be in order. Can't believe how overweight, out of shape lots of folks everywhere are.
Definitely not a food shortage for a lot of folks yet.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

MAN,AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!. it is almost impossible to find a hunting show where the client isn't AT LEAST 50 lbs overweight- quite often a lot more. thank God for Landcruisers, even if you do get charged more! otherwise most hunting shows would never be made.

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Originally posted by shakari:
Actually, joking aside for a moment, has anyone seen the new Landcruiser yet?

Steve, if you're referring to the new FJ cruiser, I haven't seen one in the flesh, but Toyota is doing a lot of advertising on tv for them here.

John

They call it the LC79 anniversary model here.

We don't get the V8 engine like you guys do but this one comes with a V6 diesel or V6 petrol engine, leather seats, spots, GPS and all kinds of other goodies including a choice of colours. Until now, we only had a choice of white or baby shit brown but now get most, if not all of the other colours as well.

I don't know if the new one is as tough as the old one but it certainly comes with a much higher comfort level.

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Originally posted by Bill C:
Adam, I did hear that some are offering a new Aussie Plan, they don't charge a day rate but do bill clients by the case.

The Zim saying "we can make a plan" applies very well with Aussies.

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Originally posted by fairgame:
John Sharpe does not have a car and conducts all his safaris on foot. The old way.

Not when we bumped into him snoozing beside his Cruiser while we clapped a Buff.

Dear Guy's

You do not need to go to Africa to find expensive fuel.
Just come to Aussie twice the price of the USA.

A few of my mates have the V8 cruser. Just hope it dose not break down as you will never be able to fix it with out a computer.
Saying that no issues in the first 30,000km.

With all the electrical gear on board do not place it in the river either.

I have seen this last week in the Toyota show room window as I drive past, what looks like a junior land cruser. (cheap looking)

Shakari how have you not hit a donkey in so many years on the road?

Regards Mark

Mate, it's because my truck has decent lights on it (unlike Landies and Toyotas) and even when I do hit the odd one, they just bounce off of the Jeep.

Depends which Landcruiser you mean guys - I suspect you are all talking about different vehicles... these are the models available in Australia - all V8's (except the bottom one - FJ Cruiser) - but with all vastly different running gear. The first one os my favourite!! I believe they are also going to bring the Tundra out here soon too - if not already here...

Wagon


Utility - hunting rig!!



200 series - expensive junk.


FJ Cruiser - pure junk

Matt

According to the email they sent me, it's called the Landcruiser LC79 anniversary model. I notice that the loadbed in your 2nd pic down is different to the one we get here.

Here's the LC79.

Yes the 79 model was the same here, prior to 70 model, still had the straight 6 engine. You are just about 4 years behind us - thats all...

The 70 here has the V-8..

You don't know how much I envy you aussies those V8 engines...... man it'd make such a difference!

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Originally posted by shakari:
You don't know how much I envy you aussies those V8 engines...... man it'd make such a difference!

Cant you just put an aftermarket turbo on the 6 CYL?? Does much the same thing!!

Don't know mate but I did hear a rumour that they might offer a turbo option..... whach would make a lot of difference

I'd look at the aftermarket turbo options.. You would be wanting to know however that the gearbox in the model you have isnt the shitty little one though...

With regard to the trays... those big flat beds are manufactured here in Aust by lots of small companies. You buy the truck as a cab-chassis and have the tray made like that, so it can drop all three sides and carry max load. This is most popular. Otherwise you can order them with the 'tub' like the ones you have.

I'm surprised they import them without the tub but it's a bloody good idea though.

The Tundra is a great truck......on pavement

SSR

Matt, the Cruisers that we can get in Southern Africa, has that shitty gearbox... About the only bad thing you can say about them.
The 5th gear is an overdrive, and a sure way to bugger it up, is by towing anything heavier tahn a Venter trailer, or loading anything heavier tahn around 500kg on the back, and then drive it in fith gear...