Replica tusks

29 May 2013, 20:15

larryshores

Replica tusks

Has anyone ever had replica tusks made in Africa? If so, were there any problems getting them into the US?

I never got the tusks from my first elephant. LONG story. They were taken in the mid 90's . They have been located. Given that they were taken so long ago, I decided against any effort to ship them and had replicas made.

Thanks.

29 May 2013, 20:33

Bwana Bunduki

I know where you can have them made Larry. I will have to look when I get back to my main office.

Jeff

29 May 2013, 20:38

Greg Brownlee

Larry,

I thought these looked pretty damn good and I don't think he needed more than the measurements and photos. Made in the US as well, so shipping would be less:

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29 May 2013, 20:42

Bwana Bunduki

My contact is SA. I like Greg's contact better.

Jeff

29 May 2013, 21:16

martin pieters

TCI, cuan@tci.co.zw

29 May 2013, 22:22

ftg767

Saw replica tusks at Highveld Taxidermy in SA 2 weeks ago...hope this helps.

29 May 2013, 22:36

larryshores

I was boarding a plane. I guess i wasn't clear. The tusks are done. I am wondering if there were problems getting the completed replicas into the US.

29 May 2013, 22:54

LionHunter

Shouldn't be an issue unless they believe they are real, in which case, tell them to do a DNA test!

30 May 2013, 04:40

Wendell Reich

Replica tusks are not 1/10 the weight of real tusks. Anyone who would mistake them would be an idiot.

Nothing feels like real ivory.

30 May 2013, 06:34

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Replica tusks are not 1/10 the weight of real tusks. Anyone who would mistake them would be an idiot.

Nothing feels like real ivory.

That would include the federal wildlife folks!

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30 May 2013, 07:31

larryshores

I agree. Hopefully, they will just lt them slide through.

30 May 2013, 10:14

jdollar

quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Replica tusks are not 1/10 the weight of real tusks. Anyone who would mistake them would be an idiot.

Nothing feels like real ivory.

i give up. what does real ivory feel like, other than smooth? i have run my hand over both and can't tell the difference. i guess i just have stupid fingers....

26 June 2013, 13:12

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I made contact with Dennis(Artistry of Wild life)He does that.Most off the taxidermists in South Africa can do that just need measurements and photos.at the end I think doing in the USA will be cheaper no air transport.

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26 June 2013, 17:46

Wendell Reich

quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Replica tusks are not 1/10 the weight of real tusks. Anyone who would mistake them would be an idiot.

Nothing feels like real ivory.

i give up. what does real ivory feel like, other than smooth? i have run my hand over both and can't tell the difference. i guess i just have stupid fingers....

No, not stupid fingers.

To me, there is a distinct feel, a real difference between the two. It's hard to describe. It's like telling someone what durian tastes like. You just have to eat it to know!

26 June 2013, 17:56

matt u

Not to hijack,but Wendell.. are you still doing any replica tusks?

26 June 2013, 18:27

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I can see if you hunt where you can't bring the tusks back Those hunts are half the price, still have the pics and experience and memories

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26 June 2013, 19:32

cal pappas

Feredays in Harare has a replica of a 140 pounder and it looks very real. Made from fiberglass and the price was $650 but I don't know if it was for one or two.
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26 June 2013, 21:15

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Mine are on the way. I had them done over in Zim as I can get an EXACT replica.

This was my first elephant. Charged. Long story short is that they languished in African bureaucracy for years. They were finally obtained but so many years had passed that I was afraid to attempt to ship them. Replicas seemed to be the best solution.

27 June 2013, 14:20

BigBBear

Wendel, I know what you mean about Durian. My sweat stunk after eating that stuff. They will not let you take them on a plane.

27 June 2013, 18:52

Duckear

Durian tastes nasty......and that's before you put it in your mouth.

27 June 2013, 19:17

Wendell Reich

Actually, I was wrong. You can explain what durian tastes like.

Durian = Garlic + used Motor Oil + Mango

Sorry to derail the tusk thread.

27 June 2013, 19:30

Duckear

Pretty much the most epic derail I can recall

Elephant tusks to durian.

Wendell, you win the internet today.

27 June 2013, 19:31

Wendell Reich

I win! I win! I win!

Wait ... what did I win???

28 June 2013, 07:06

jdollar

i give up. what the hell is Durian? is it like Vegimite?

28 June 2013, 08:05

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
i give up. what the hell is Durian? is it like Vegimite?

My thoughts exactly! Never heard of the stuff. Durian ... not Vegimite!

28 June 2013, 08:13

fujotupu

quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
i give up. what the hell is Durian? is it like Vegimite?

Its a tropical fruit - smells like an overhung pheasant and rotten cheese but tastes pretty good.

28 June 2013, 08:42

Wendell Reich

quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
i give up. what the hell is Durian? is it like Vegimite?

Thorny Asian fruit.

The edible flesh emits a distinctive odour that is strong and penetrating even when the husk is intact. Some people regard the durian as pleasantly fragrant; others find the aroma overpowering and revolting. The smell evokes reactions from deep appreciation to intense disgust, and has been described variously as almonds, rotten onions, turpentine, raw sewage. The persistence of its odour has led to the fruit's banishment from certain hotels and public transportation in southeast Asia.

28 June 2013, 17:00

Jorge400

We had durian in Thailand earlier this year and it wasn't all that bad. I guess I would describe it as a somewhat blan custard with a pulp. The smell was not that overpowering. We were told they are not quite in season so the ripening may increase the odor. I didn't mind the smell but one thing is for sure - once you smell it you will recognize the smell anywhere.

28 June 2013, 17:36

scojac

quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
I win! I win! I win!

Wait ... what did I win???

What else? A free lifetime supply of durian!!!

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29 June 2013, 03:13

jdollar

man, i can hardly wait to eat something that smells like a cross between turpentine and raw sewage- yum, yum. whenever a food is described as "not that bad" i have to wonder about people's sense of taste.

29 June 2013, 05:45

sevenmagltd.

Getting the train back on the rails, If I may? If I shoot a non trophy bull(exportable) but don't want to bother with shipping the small or broken tusks to the US, can I sell them in Zim? What if I bring the feet and some panels home, can I sell any part of the ele in the US?
Thanks for any comments.

29 June 2013, 16:15

BigBBear

sevenmag, You do not have to export the tusks in order to export the feet, leather, etc. but,,, and Martin, Buzz, some others will need to opine, I do not think it would be wise or even possible to seel Ivory in Zimbabwe, even if legally harvested. The one thing to remember, is that many times a non-trophy bull is still worth exporting. just my 2cents.

01 July 2013, 17:33

Wendell Reich

quote:
Originally posted by sevenmagltd.:
Getting the train back on the rails, If I may? If I shoot a non trophy bull(exportable) but don't want to bother with shipping the small or broken tusks to the US, can I sell them in Zim? What if I bring the feet and some panels home, can I sell any part of the ele in the US?
Thanks for any comments.

If you ship some Ele hide back, might as well ship the tusks as well. Probably little if any difference at all in shipping costs (most trophy crates are calculated by volume, not weight).

01 July 2013, 19:18

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
quote:
Originally posted by sevenmagltd.:
Getting the train back on the rails, If I may? If I shoot a non trophy bull(exportable) but don't want to bother with shipping the small or broken tusks to the US, can I sell them in Zim? What if I bring the feet and some panels home, can I sell any part of the ele in the US?
Thanks for any comments.

If you ship some Ele hide back, might as well ship the tusks as well. Probably little if any difference at all in shipping costs (most trophy crates are calculated by volume, not weight).

Wendell is correct, large crates are charged by volume weight. It is it is calculated as if it were the highest priority freight price that amount of space could hold. So if your tusks will not make the crate much larger the price won't be much higher. The above information may be flawed because I retired from American Airlines back in 1996, but I doubt it has changed.

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02 July 2013, 21:58

fujotupu

quote:
If you ship some Ele hide back, might as well ship the tusks as well. Probably little if any difference at all in shipping costs (most trophy crates are calculated by volume, not weight).

Wendell:

I have known the airlines (KLM & SAA) to take the best opportunity available to them, i.e. if the volume is large and weight is minor they go for a cost per c.m. but on the other hand if you have a smallish box the size of a standard car battery which may weigh between 20/25kgs they will apply a weight charge.

02 July 2013, 22:20

Wendell Reich

True. With Elephant hide and tusks, the crate might be small enough to be charged as weight rather than volume.

04 July 2013, 04:58

sevenmagltd.

I am fully aware of the shipment of trophies by volume/weight/etc. Thanks.
The other question, "Can I sell any part of the elephant once back in the US?" Does the part have to be "worked"? For instance, could I sell two of the feet to someone for footstools?

04 July 2013, 06:19

D R Hunter

quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
Mine are on the way. I had them done over in Zim as I can get an EXACT replica.

This was my first elephant. Charged. Long story short is that they languished in African bureaucracy for years. They were finally obtained but so many years had passed that I was afraid to attempt to ship them. Replicas seemed to be the best solution.

Would it be ridiculous to have the EXACT replicas made, AND
endeavor to have the originals shipped to you here as well?

TWO major points to me: your FIRST elephant AND, CHARGING !!!
What a thrill it must have been to experience...

04 July 2013, 08:05

fujotupu

quote:
Originally posted by sevenmagltd.:
I am fully aware of the shipment of trophies by volume/weight/etc. Thanks.
The other question, "Can I sell any part of the elephant once back in the US?" Does the part have to be "worked"? For instance, could I sell two of the feet to someone for footstools?

To the best of my knowledge the answer is NO.
Regardless of the fact that the foot may have been turned into a footstool, umbrella stand or mini-bar cabinet, the bottom line is that is still an original part of an elephant.
An elephant hair bracelet for example could land you in hot water, for the same reason.