Hi
i am looking for a good low power scope for my brno 602 in 375. any sugestion? 2½x or variable 1½-6 x?
regards
yes

1.5-6 for this reason: THe 375 is probably the most flexible cartridge ever made, and if you spend enough time in Africa you can use it for everything form Steinbucks to Buffalo. On a PG hunt, 6x can help the 250 yard shots or a well placed shot on leopard, and 1.5 lets you shoot very close in the thick, nasty stuff. My 375 wears a Burris 1.5-5, and I'm happy!

BN

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Originally posted by yes:
Hi
i am looking for a good low power scope for my brno 602 in 375. any sugestion? 2½x or variable 1½-6 x?
regards
yes

A flexible scope for a flexible cartridge:
swarowski 1.7-10 x 42 (possibly with red point)
A HUGE SCOPE....

1.1x4x24 Kahles Helia C

My favorite scope for my .375's is the Leupold or Zeiss 2.5x8. I've taken game at distances that are better suited to the flatter shooting .300's with the scope cranked to 8x and can lower her to 2.5x when in the thick stuff. Lots of versatility you don't get with a fixed 2.5x! I see the 2.5x application as a true big bore scope. But in the end, it's what you are comfortable with...

Out of the choices offered I'd take the 1.5-6, though I have 3-9 and 3.5-10 Zeiss and Leupold scopes on my own .375s. I had a 2.5x on my .416, and took it off in favor of a 1.75-6. The little 2.5 Compact was a little too dim for mornings and evenings.

I've run through a number of scopes on my .375H&H. Finally settled on the Leupold 1.75-6x. Plenty of eye relief, power low enough for early/late/close shooting, and enough on the high end for the longer shots.

Just to disagree with my good friend from Colorado Springs, I like Leupold 1X4.

YES,

I am working on the same type of project myself at this time in anticipation of my first DG hunt in two to three years. Presently bedding and putting on a barrel band of the CZ550 in 375HH.

As for a scope choice, if it is truly to be a DG rifle I believe you would either want quick release rings in case of requiring following game into heavy brush or a scope with a narrow objective lens to see past it with both eyes open. If solely for PG then the larger objective lens will gather more light. At least this is the strategy I am using in order to justify a new scope .

As you can see from the responses, lots of good choices in brand.

Best Regards, Fred

Was running a Leupy 1.5-5 on mine; now it's the spare in QD rings and it normally wears a 2-7 Leupold.

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Originally posted by prof242:
I've run through a number of scopes on my .375H&H. Finally settled on the Leupold 1.75-6x. Plenty of eye relief, power low enough for early/late/close shooting, and enough on the high end for the longer shots.

I agree with the Prof!

yes

This is a big depends. How much are you willing to spend? Is this scope for a specific trip? Are you hunting a specific animal (ex. leopard over bait - illuminated reticle)? Is this one scope to cover everything (Africa, Europe, America, Asia)?

That said if your price range is leupold I would suggest leupold vx3 1.75-6. The 1.75-6 has a larger tube which equals more light than the 1.5-5. Burris also makes some nice scopes for about the same money as the leupold vx3s (Eurodiamond I think is the model). You may consider a Trijicon especially if an illuminated reticle is important, but I can't speak intelligently about them. Personally I don't see much point in the Kahles, Ziess conquest, or high end leupolds. I don't think they're worth the money when you consider you are almost up to the big boys money wise (Ziess, Swarovski, Schidt & Bender). I just don't think the light and picture quality are that much better than the vx3 when you consider the extra money.

That being said I would recommend the big boys if you can afford them. When you look through them you know where the extra money went. The light gathering and picture quality are superb. The Schmidt & Benders tend to be heavier scopes (and more expensive), so if adding weight to lessen recoil is a concern then that may help, but I think this is generally a non point unless your a mountain hunter. One word of caution about the Ziess, Swarovski, Schmidt & Benders is that they tend to have larger bells even on their dangerous game scopes. Although a larger bell allows for more light gathering and a brighter picture it also raises the scope off the barrel which is not desirable in a dangerous game scope. In dangerous game hunting quick shooting can mean life and death or a lost trophy fee. The higher the scope is off the barrel the longer it takes/harder it is to quickly acquire your target. So if you're in the market for a Ziess, Swarovski, or Schidt & Bender and plan to use it for dangerous game I would leave the 50mm bells in the store and opt for something smaller. The one exception to this would be if you were leopard hunting over bait and did not anticipate hunting any other dangerous game with that rifle.

As far a magnification it depends on what your hunting and where. If its dangerous game I personally wouldn't even consider anything that didn't go down to 1, 1.5, or 1.75 (except leopard). Buffalo in Tanzania long grass convinced me of that. But a plains game hunt can be a whole different story. In Namibia you may get 300m+ shots. I've taken a 300m shot with a 6x and wouldn't recommend it if a 9x is handy.

I hope this helps. Please let us know your specific requirements.


Brett

Thumbs up on the quick detach!

And I agree with you Dave. I think the lowest power variable handicaps the 375 which as others have said is a very versatile caliber. The 1.75x6 has a wide enough FOV for close in, the extra magnification and light gathering for longer shots and low light applications such as cats on bait.

Mark

Mine also has a Leupold 1.75-6. Bought it used and that's what was already on it. Worked out well because that's what I wanted to put on it anyway.

Mine's wearing a Leupy 2.5-8x36 right now for everything and I order a VX-II 1-4 for back-up/buff yesterday. That's a pretty good combo, me thinks.

David

DOJ! You've broken my heart.
By the way, sure did enjoy visiting with you at the DSC.

I'm very happy with the 2-7x Leupold that I have on my .375 Ultra Mag. An I have used it on quite a few animals from Steenbok to Buffalo.

I use a 1.5-5 Zeiss on my 375

Mine also wears a Leupold VX III 1.75-6X in Leupold QR rings/bases.

I use a Leupold VXIII 2.5-8x36 on my RSM in 375H&H. I have a Leupold VariXIII 1.5-5x20 in rings as a backup, but have never used it.

Leupold 1.5-5x20 with QR Leupold rings and bases.

I think the 1.75x6 will give you good versatility and a little better brightness in low light conditions. My first leopard hunt my 375 wore a 1.25x4. As soon as I got home, I ordered a 1.75x6 and switched. It is much better those last 15 minutes of daylight.

Swarovski 1.1 x 6 if you can afford it.

this is a 30mm tube without larger objective and largest field of view in industry on 1.1 X (130 feet at 100 yds) which will be useful if you ever hunt elephant.

you will use the 6 X frequently on an all purpose 375.

Andy

On my Kimber Caprivi 375 H&H I put a Zeiss VM/V 30mm in 1.5-6.

I've used a 6x M8 Leupold on my 264 Win Mag mountain rifle for years, and found 6x works great for me out to 250 yds or so. I have less hunting experience with the 375 H&H, but feel good with the 1.5-6 scope so far.

I mounted the Zeiss on my Kimber with the Leupold LX mounting system. This setup is real nice.

Get a good scope. You'll have the gun for a long time. My motto is "buy the best and cry only once".

leupold 1.5x5 with a 3.5x10 for backup and leopard. Both are in qd rings and sighted in before I leave. That way if you get a good leopard on bait just switch and check zero.

I used a 2.5x8 vxIII with the same as a back up on a plains game hunt. Going for buff this year. Primary will be a 1.5x5x20 vxIII with the 2.5x8 as a backup. Both in warne quick detach rings. Rifle is a MarkX in a accurate innovations stock, It is a real shooter.

The .375 H&H is a very flexible and capable rifle with a lot of reach. I personally think it's a hair light for Buf and prefer at least .416s for DG. As a result I've run 3-9x40 MC Zeiss Conquest scopes on two .375 H&H rifles and have been very happy with them. They have plenty of eye relief and are good in low light.

I like the 1.5-5 or 1.5-6 scopes on middle recoil DGRs and 2.5x Leupold compacts on DGRs with recoil like the Lott.

Schmidt & Bender 1.5-6x42

Hi
I have a 2-7x leupold vx1 . i wonder if this scope can cope with my 375? i had it on the top of a 6,5x55 för a good while.
regards
yes

Yes
My scope like yours has survived a few hundred rounds on a 375 without changing point of impact. I have confidence in it and don't plan on changing it.

Yes

What do you plan to hunt with it?

Brett

My 375 wears a 2.5 x 8 Leupold. Lots of eye relief and good all around tough scope.

hi brett
well att first plain games and i'll see if i can afford the bigger oes
regards
yes

yes

Higher power is nice for pg especially in open areas. But make sure it goes down pretty far. I'm sure it would be frustrating to have a kudu in the brush at 20-30m and not be able to find it in the scope. Optics are much like hunts you get what you pay for so I would buy the most you can afford. I don't think Swarovski or Zeiss are prerequisites to safari, but it doesn't make much sense to me to spend $6-15k on a hunt and then take a $200 scope. Skimp on the rifle, skimp on the clothes, one less trophy fee, but don't skimp on the optics. The difference in quality between a $200 and $400 scope is markedly greater than between a $600 and $800 scope. Not being a snob I just think it's too important. Personally I start at the leupold VX3s or nothing at all.

One more thing to consider. If you can afford it try to get a scope with a 30mm tube over a 1 inch tube. The scope picture will be much brighter in the 30mm especially in low light.

Have fun planning your safari. Personally I think planning is half the fun.

Brett

"One more thing to consider. If you can afford it try to get a scope with a 30mm tube over a 1 inch tube. The scope picture will be much brighter in the 30mm especially in low light."

Are you sure?

My 375 H&H currently wears a Leupold 1-4; however it has see many Leupold scopes in the 1.5-9 power range. IMO, any scope in the 1 - 10 power range would work nicely. Lou

My 375 H&H currently wears a Leupold 1-4; however it has see many Leupold scopes in the 1.5-9 power range. IMO, any scope in the 1 - 10 power range would work nicely. Lou

I'm afraid 30mm tubes offers no advantage over the 1" tube in terms of brightness. From the Leupold website:

The Leupold Answer Guide

Advantages of a 30mm Maintube
Does a 30mm maintube give you more light? The principal advantages of the 30mm tube are added strength and increased adjustment range for windage and elevation. For example, the M8-12X (1" maintube) has a total elevation adjustment of 51 minutes. The Mark-4 M1-10X (30mm maintube) has 90 minutes. The percentage of light passing through a scope is a function of lens coating and optical design, and has nothing to do with tube diameter.

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Originally posted by Bwana Nderobo:
1.5-6 for this reason: THe 375 is probably the most flexible cartridge ever made, and if you spend enough time in Africa you can use it for everything form Steinbucks to Buffalo. On a PG hunt, 6x can help the 250 yard shots or a well placed shot on leopard, and 1.5 lets you shoot very close in the thick, nasty stuff. My 375 wears a Burris 1.5-5, and I'm happy!

BN

I agree on every point. I, too, have a Burris 1.5-5 Lighted Reticle Scop (LRS) and it's a great set-up for my M70 Super Express.
Dave

yes, the old 30mm more light theory... inside guts are essentially the same. You will notice a difference between manufacturers' coatings long before 30mm will make a damn bit of difference.

1.75 x 6 on my 375.