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I thought this might interest everyone! Just yesterday I attended the lion ageing workshop held in Harare, by Panthera and Parks and Wildlife members. So for every lion and leopard hunt conducted in Zim one has to submit a whole bunch of photos with the paperwork at completion of hunt. Photos must be of teeth, skull, nose, mane from front and side etc. The members of Panthera and Parks then sit down together at end of yr and by looking at multiple photos of each lion shot, they then come up with an age!! Minimum age for Zimbabwe is currently 5yrs old. Only 23 lion have currently been hunted in Zimbabwe thus far in 2017 and all except 1 have been 5yrs+. In 2013 before there was an age restriction there were, if I remember correctly, approximately 80 lions hunted of which most were under 5yrs old. There is no doubt that the ageing criteria has helped Zim produce better quality and older lion. So from 80 down to 20 is quite a reduction. However the reduction in lions been taken would no doubt have also been affected by the import ban into the US and hence less lion hunts being conducted in general and of course a few more “failed” hunts where lion was not taken during a hunt. I strongly believe that it’s because of measures like these that have been taken, that have no doubt helped Zimbabwe get the lion import ban reversed. Apparently things are looking gd for Zim and Zam with regards to being able to export lions. Let’s keep at it!! Happy Hunting. | ||
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Well done Zimbabwe. If we can keep these quotas low and adhere to the set standards then Lion hunting is sustainable. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Good job When the focus is truly conservation based everyone wins in the long term | |||
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So it seems at least trying to age lions in the field has had positive results. As hard as it might be to 100% age them, the fact that a greater degree of effort is put in to do it only increases a PHs ability and accuracy I would think. Again, in this day and age I can only see positive results from this approach. | |||
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Thierry, Thanks for an outstanding post. Attitudes like that give me hope!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Thierry, Wonderful information! Glad to know the hard work has paid off! | |||
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 Good news Thierry, glad things are moving in a positive direction!Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Encouraging news! Thanks for posting. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Good news all round for the Hunting fraternity. | |||
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This is the kind of news that should be posted by TGA and such agencies. Measures taken is improving standards and sustainability. Well Done Zim  | |||
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Was the ph in charge of the under aged lion given a fine? | |||
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Negative. The PH doesn’t get fined as such and client still gets to export his lion but the area does lose a lion on quota for the following yr so effectively losing out on a very valuable hunt. The operator may have their own “fines system” towards a PH who costs them a lion on quota for the following yr. This is all added pressure on PH. Imagine now having to tell a client that’s booked a lion hunt for the following yr that there is no more lion on quota? Not nice! | |||
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That sounds very positive. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the 20 lions with an estimate of their actual ages. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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+1. I find this stuff fascinating and educational. | |||
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Similar to Zambia except the PH stands to loose his license and incurs a fine by Government. What with the heavily reduced quotas regionally the hunting client stands a very good chance of taking a quality male of age. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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