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Originally posted by JTEX:
White rhino can be imported from SA, but as was said he careful the permit process is pretty intensive.

It will,definitely be behind a fence, whether its a canned hunt will depend on the outfitter.

In my opinion, there are differences between fenced and canned....but everyone has their own opinion....

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
White rhino can be imported from SA, but as was said he careful the permit process is pretty intensive.

It will,definitely be behind a fence, whether its a canned hunt will depend on the outfitter.

In my opinion, there are differences between fenced and canned....but everyone has their own opinion....

Intensive doesn’t begin to describe it.

They want things that often don’t exist for an American . For example, proof of membership in good standing in the applicable hunting association . They want licenses on all prior international hunting . They want logs of game taken .

It is beyond ridiculous. I am supposed to hunt one in July. I have no idea if it will actually happen .

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Originally posted by crbutler:
When I did it they wanted some logs of game and membership in a hunting org. It sounds a lot worse than it actually was.

Admittedly it was a few years ago now, but they wanted pictures of game animals and where taken with 4-5 major animals. I think they also were happy with an SCI membership card and a copy of a local hunting license.

It was explained to me that this was to stop having oriental types who have never hunted to speak of go over, kill the rhino and take the horn home for sale on the horn trade. The idea is to show that yes, indeed you are a hunter and have proof of it. Why rhino more so than elephant I presume is the SA government's attempt to stop the owners from just selling things.

I was more irritated that I had to sign something that allows the SA government the "right" to come and inspect it at their desire (they did put a chip in the horn) indefinitely.

That being said, its a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork that is more irritating than a problem.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
White rhino can be imported from SA, but as was said he careful the permit process is pretty intensive.

It will,definitely be behind a fence, whether its a canned hunt will depend on the outfitter.

In my opinion, there are differences between fenced and canned....but everyone has their own opinion....

Intensive doesn’t begin to describe it.

They want things that often don’t exist for an American . For example, proof of membership in good standing in the applicable hunting association . They want licenses on all prior international hunting . They want logs of game taken .

It is beyond ridiculous. I am supposed to hunt one in July. I have no idea if it will actually happen .

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Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
I took a very good white rhino in South Africa back in, I believe, 2005. 27" on the front horn. At that time the importation was very simple, although there were CITES requirements with South Africa for export, but not with the U.S. for import. I did not have to jump through the rings that are being described above. Sad. However, right after I hunted my rhino, the Vietnamese came in by the scores to 'legally hunt' rhino. Although it was legal, it was no more than a complete ruse, and shortly thereafter the South African Government stopped the Vietnamese altogether. Prices also shot up during that time from around 25-30K for a rhino to over 130K. It was all ridiculous and resulted in what you are now seeing today. My hunt occurred in a huge high fenced area and there were two rhino roaming in that area that were huntable. We spent a lot of time locating them and picking out the rhino that I wanted. It was not a shoot in a small enclosure. Both horns were immediately taken, micro-chipped and stored in a big safe until the rhino was taxidermied by our friends in White River-Life Form Taxidermy.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
All this stupidity would not exist if they treated rhinos like all farmed animals, and all the respective legality of that!

There wouldn’t be any rhinos if the farmers did not breed them

Now they are not allowed to make them pay for their keep.

Like all farmed animals!

I wonder how many cattle and sheep would be around if farmers had to go tithe same stupid rules!

Invented by totally clue idiots!

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
My sense is that all of this paperwork and hassle are designed to be burdensome disincentives without any actual concern for the fate of the rhinoceros.