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i have been in contact with Cam Greig( camshaft) on a self guided hunt in Cameroon (chasse libre) mainly for roan, LDE, forest buff, plus some smaller stuff( duikers, bushbuck, hogs, kob, waterbuck, etc.). not for the faint of heart as i understand it and i would likely do it alone if necessary but i was wondering if anyone here is interested in sharing a hunt that essentially a throwback to to an earlier era? 2 guys with their trackers leave camp on foot each morning in different directions and hunt until time to return to camp- essentially the camp sharing becomes meeting up at night and sharing a campfire meal. the cost savings of 1 hunter versus 2 is only $1000, so money isn't the issue. the issue is sharing the overall experience with another like- minded individual. sound intriguing?


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Did a selfguided hunt for forest elephant (unsuccessful) last year at the boarder of Congo. The rainforest is just amazing, would love to go again.

I can't comment on the north of Cameroon, but Daniel (Cam's main tracker) is a very good man!! You will enjoy his company.

If you go you will have an adventure that's for sure.


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Takes big cahoonas to do those hunts. Good luck.
 
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I have talked with Cam a few times myself. This type of hunt has a great appeal to me. This is a throwback to how hunts were done 100 years ago. The reason I have not gone is the same as yours jdollar. When are you thinking of going?


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jdollar,

I am interested in this venture if it is 2015 or 2016. I am already booked for Zim in 2014. pm sent.
 
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i sent PM's to both of you but for the sake of info to anyone else that's interested, i was thinking about going in March/early April of next year, although being retired, i could move it up( apparently season ends at the end of April, as i understand it)


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I've hung out with Cam a bit.

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i have tried to find some hunt reports for a hunt like this but was unsuccessful. if anyone has posted one or has a link, i would appreciate it!


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Jerry,
I would consider going as well. But I can't do 2014 either. Keep me posted. I talked to Cam once about becoming a partner.


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i have tried to find some hunt reports for a hunt like this but was unsuccessful. if anyone has posted one or has a link, i would appreciate it!


There are at least two here in the hunt reports section. I will try to find them tomorrow unless someone else links them, but one was by Scruffy (?) and the other was a poaching patrol made by an AR member if I recall.


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damn, surely someone can go next year! at age 65 but in good health i don't make long range plans and figure if i don't do it in 8-10 months- well, who knows what might happen....i found the poaching patrol hunt but it really wasn't to applicable to what i want to do.


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thinking about that
it would be hoot


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..i found the poaching patrol hunt but it really wasn't to applicable to what i want to do.


Here is the hunt report


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i have been in contact with Cam Greig( camshaft) on a self guided hunt in Cameroon (chasse libre) mainly for roan, LDE, forest buff, plus some smaller stuff( duikers, bushbuck, hogs, kob, waterbuck, etc.). not for the faint of heart as i understand it and i would likely do it alone if necessary but i was wondering if anyone here is interested in sharing a hunt that essentially a throwback to to an earlier era? 2 guys with their trackers leave camp on foot each morning in different directions and hunt until time to return to camp- essentially the camp sharing becomes meeting up at night and sharing a campfire meal. the cost savings of 1 hunter versus 2 is only $1000, so money isn't the issue. the issue is sharing the overall experience with another like- minded individual. sound intriguing?


Jdollar,
To answer your final question - No. I would love to share the experience, but to do it without language skills and no PH on the ground to help sort the multitude of craziness that happens I that country - whew!

I spent time in Russia, Kazakhstan, Pakistan and Nigeria in my business. Each of those places is crazy for a westerner but I cannot imagine taking this on by myself.

If you do this, write a book as it would be a best seller!!!!
 
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I am that 'Scruffy' character who did the unguided hunt in Cameroon a few years ago ... Certainly no regrets .. had a fabulous time and got my buffalo ...

Nearly stepped on a puff adder the first day and had that happened I reckon that it would have been a horrible trip and more than likely - my last .. Roll Eyes But it didn't so what the hell !!! Smiler

If I didn't already have a couple of jumbos I would certainly go back and hunt one of them the same way ... an adventure of adventures !!! tu2
For me, however ... I think that two elephants are enough.

It really is an 'attitude' thing ...

However if things do go wrong - yikes !!! Just like anywhere else ...just further from most places ... Good luck !
 
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now if i can just find a like-minded( crazy??) individual looking for adventure over high body count, the game will be afoot, as Sherlock Holmes once said!!


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What does a hunt like this go for anyway? Sounds like an amazing experience!
 
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You have my attention. I have always been accused of having more fun than sense and am always looking for the next adventure. What language do the trackers speak? I will send you a PM.
 
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the locals speak French but an interpreter is in camp. cost is $9000 for approx 15 days in country and 10-11 days of hunting plus trophy fees and the usual extras


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Jdollar,
To answer your final question - No. I would love to share the experience, but to do it without language skills and no PH on the ground to help sort the multitude of craziness that happens I that country - whew!


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the locals speak French but an interpreter is in camp.


In my experience most of Cam's staff speak good English. I was a bit disappointed about this because I figured that I would be able to REALLY polish my horrible French by being forced to speak nothing but French for the month I was in camp. As it turned out most all of the guys spoke passable English and I had few opportunities to speak French.

Another important point: you will never be "on your own". Cam's main guy, Daniel, is very, very well versed at dealing with problems that arise. He has been doing this for something like 25 years. Add to this the fact that Cam has a network of friends/contacts throughout the country and you can see that you are not going to be thrown to the wolves. Cam's friends are always willing to help Cams clients.

These hunts are hard, but they are relativity safe and they are one of the last true adventures available.


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You have my attention. I have always been accused of having more fun than sense and am always looking for the next adventure. What language do the trackers speak? I will send you a PM.

well, Vince, i enjoyed our conversation a few minutes ago and looks like a plan is coming together!! beer


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In one of two years I will do this with an Buddy from my hometown.

I had done some "self-guided hunts" and "allone hunts" in Africa and it was an gret expirience.

So:
Do it.
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jdollar PM sent


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PM answered and will call tonight.


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well, things are looking good- albeit with a different Texan than the original plan! sorry you can't make it Vince but glad that Brian will apparently be carrying the Lone Star flag instead! too soon to say for sure- but a plan seems to be coming together! tu2


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It looks like JDollar and Brian will take the last slot I have for 2014. I try to keep a good space between hunters and so the available spots are all taken. Feel free to contact me if anyone is interested in 2015. As you can see at these prices the hunts fill up. I am sure my eland area will get better every year, as I have a staff of anti-poachers on it now 365 days a year. I will also continue to run my $5,000 special for the King’s zone. See my web site for detais…selfguidedafrica.com
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See there Cam you haven't been totally wasting your time with me the last 3-4 years.
I am really looking forward to this.


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Brian,
Send me your e-mail and I will send you relevent documents to prepare yourself.
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Good luck with the hunt. I'd love to do this at some point.


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This is very definitely on my "some day" list. Realistically, probably not before 2017, though. That's an eternity when it comes to planning a hunt, but hopefully the opportunity will still be there when I can do it!
 
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you actually plan hunts 4 years in advance? i just hope i am alive and well in 4 years! contract signed today and deposit on it's way in the next few days. i have actually started buying a few items i will "need". solar panel to charge cameras today, Hennessy hammock tomorrow. LIFE IS GOOD!


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i have actually started buying a few items i will "need". solar panel to charge cameras today, Hennessy hammock tomorrow. LIFE IS GOOD!


Life is good. You are about to embark on the adventure of a lifetime!

The Hennessy Hammock is worth its weight in gold.

I wish I could have matched dates with you and tagged along, but my elementary school teaching schedule really puts a crimp on my early-year hunting. I will be in contact to give you some tips.


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Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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First time I got into my hammock in Cameroon it flipped me out and down .. face plant ... luckily I was born suave so never looked at all like a frickin' gomer ! Smiler Later it happened again while I was eating a plate of food ... landed on my belly and kept on eating ... One of the porters took pity on me and tied the hammock securely ... (I have never been accused of arrogance on any of my safaris for some reason)
 
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The key to the hammocks is to have them tied very tight on the top string. Have the height so you can sit into it without it touching the ground. Slowly get into it and best to keep your body at 45 degrees to the trees holding you up. I personally was very hesitant to try one and since I have, I am a true fan. You get the best sleep you will ever have, as it conforms to your body and supports you at any angle. You just have to make movements slow, especially when you first get in. Make sure to get the zippered one, and if going in the rainy season the larger fly, not the standard one, as there are horrendous winds which blow the rain sideways and you will get wet. I re-coat all the seams of the flys, due to several unpleasant nights where the hammock became a pool with water dripping in and the hammock holding the water like a fish bowl. Most unpleasant in a heavy downpour!
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tu2 Best sleep I ever had was in my hammock in africa. I love it and highly recommend it!


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I went on one of Cam's Chasse Libre Hunts up in the north (savanna) in Feb of 2011. My partner in the hunt broke is foot a month prior o departure. I was unsure about doing this hunt by myself. But Cam assured me that I would be OK. I am REALLY glad I did it by myself. I set my own agenda. I did 10 days in a Tribal area and then 5 days in the King's Zone (Zone 10). I took a Buffalo, Roan, Waterbuck (SingSing), Bushbuck ( harness) Western Kob.... This hunt was the most physically challenging hunt I have ever undertaken, all on foot, crappy water ( You can make it at home. Take a bucket of perfectly good water, mix in a cup a clay, a liter of cow piss, heat to a boil, let it cool to about 90 degrees... enjoy!)Mentally...You have no one to talk to. I talked to myself for over a week. Yelled at the help in english and they smiled back. I dreamed of cold beer and Ice Cream. BTW- there is good Nutella ice cream at the main grocery store back in Youande. When you return back to civilization, get an ice cold Apple-Top- Moose-a.
 
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I have to say I laughed a good one on the water recipe...a complete truth. You just need to make sure all your wate is boiled the night before so it can cool down to a temperate 85 degrees. Other than that please take "Crystal Lite single packs" to add to the water it actualy makes it palatable...Here's mud in your eye
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i have actually started buying a few items i will "need". solar panel to charge cameras today, Hennessy hammock tomorrow. LIFE IS GOOD!


Life is good. You are about to embark on the adventure of a lifetime!

The Hennessy Hammock is worth its weight in gold.

I wish I could have matched dates with you and tagged along, but my elementary school teaching schedule really puts a crimp on my early-year hunting. I will be in contact to give you some tips.

ANY info/help will be greatly appreciated. Brian and I are good to go. checked flight reservations and was surprised how quick i can get there- 22/1/2 hours in transit with no layover over 2 1/2 hours outbound and 28 hrs on the return. total cost about $2350 in Delta economy comfort.


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The key to the hammocks is to have them tied very tight on the top string. Have the height so you can sit into it without it touching the ground. Slowly get into it and best to keep your body at 45 degrees to the trees holding you up. I personally was very hesitant to try one and since I have, I am a true fan. You get the best sleep you will ever have, as it conforms to your body and supports you at any angle. You just have to make movements slow, especially when you first get in. Make sure to get the zippered one, and if going in the rainy season the larger fly, not the standard one, as there are horrendous winds which blow the rain sideways and you will get wet. I re-coat all the seams of the flys, due to several unpleasant nights where the hammock became a pool with water dripping in and the hammock holding the water like a fish bowl. Most unpleasant in a heavy downpour!
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i plan on buying the expedition asymetric zip model( the smaller of the 2) but swapping the standard fly for the larger hex fly. i figured the extra shade might be handy around camp( obviously rain won't be an issue!!). the hammock that Scruffy picture in his hunt report- well let's just say i have done numerous face plants getting in those SOB's...


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i plan on buying the expedition asymetric zip model( the smaller of the 2) but swapping the standard fly for the larger hex fly. i figured the extra shade might be handy around camp( obviously rain won't be an issue!!). the hammock that Scruffy picture in his hunt report- well let's just say i have done numerous face plants getting in those SOB's...


I'll give you a call with some tips, but I thought I should post this before you buy your hammock... Get the bigger one(the Explorer Deluxe) unless you are very small and comfortable in tight places. Hennessy hammocks are great, but they can feel claustrophobic to a new user.

Also, I have had my Explorer deluxe in some unbelievable storms and I have found the rainfly to be very adequate even when the wind is really wiping.

Also, take a small sleeping pad with you to shield you from the cold. Your body weight will compress your sleeping bag below you and even a slight breeze across the bottom of the hammock will really suck the heat right out of you. I know Cameroon is supposed to be hot, but the coldest knight I have ever spent was in Zone 10. I almost froze my ass off(literally).

A closed cell pad(like the $6 blue ones at Wallmart) can be cut down to 3'x2' so that it fits from your hip to shoulder. You just slip this into your sleeping bag. Oh, I always carry an emergency blanket like the silent ones sold by AMR just in case it gets really cold, or if you have to go to bed in damp clothing.


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

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Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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