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Originally posted by adrook:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Hope that all parties involved recover from the incident, both the physical as well as the emotional/mental injuries.

Adrook, why don't you yourself a favor on this one and just keep your mouth shut.

You don't have a damn idea of what you would have done if you had of been in her place with everything that was going on at that moment, none of us do.

Being a total dick and blaiming her for her actions is not doing anyone any good.

Hey Mr. Shoestring Safaris,

I have every idea of what I would have done in her place, I've been hunting and shooting for nearly 40 years and haven't shot anyone yet, never had an accidental discharge, etc. Had it been me I would have made damn sure where the tracker was before I shot my rifle. It's DG hunting, dummy, anything can happen at any time, that's why one should remain extra vigilant and aware of where everyone on the hunt is at any given moment in case something does go wrong. Glad I'm not hunting with some of you fucks.

A PH friend of mine told me that his greatest fear is not getting whacked by an animal but rather getting shot by a careless or excited client. After reading this shit I understand his concern.

Mr Shoestring,
I know what I would do, cause I did it. Sorry it was only a lion not a leopard. I didn't shoot anybody either, at least I don't think I did. Alister Norton still speaks to me so he's OK, no bleeding humans only one dead tabby.

My prayers and wishes for a speeding recovery go out to Punki; and, I hope Brittany comes out ou this mentally intact.

Adrook, may you RIP.

I too hope and pray that Punki will recover and return to the game fields of Africa. I also hope and pray that Brittney will also recover and return to the game fields of Africa.

With one exception, 42 responses have been supportive of both man and woman, and over 800 have viewed this thread from the sidelines. I hope that if either Punki or Brittney should read these comments somewhere along the way, they would be comforted by the comments given by many many experienced hunters, Africana or otherwise.

Brittney will play the events over in her mind for the rest of her life. Punki may walk or hobble with a limp for the rest of his life. Right now, who knows. The PH is going to think about it for as long a time as anyone. Ultimately those three are going to have to come to grips with "would'uv, could'uv, should've, and armchair judgement isn't really necessary.

Thank God, no one died except the cat.

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Hope that all parties involved recover from the incident, both the physical as well as the emotional/mental injuries.

Adrook, why don't you yourself a favor on this one and just keep your mouth shut.

You don't have a damn idea of what you would have done if you had of been in her place with everything that was going on at that moment, none of us do.

Being a total dick and blaiming her for her actions is not doing anyone any good.

Hey Mr. Shoestring Safaris,

I have every idea of what I would have done in her place, I've been hunting and shooting for nearly 40 years and haven't shot anyone yet, never had an accidental discharge, etc. Had it been me I would have made damn sure where the tracker was before I shot my rifle. It's DG hunting, dummy, anything can happen at any time, that's why one should remain extra vigilant and aware of where everyone on the hunt is at any given moment in case something does go wrong. Glad I'm not hunting with some of you fucks.

A PH friend of mine told me that his greatest fear is not getting whacked by an animal but rather getting shot by a careless or excited client. After reading this shit I understand his concern.

I am real impressed how brave you would have been if you had been in this young lady's place.

My old man taught me to keep it short and sweet.

YOU ARE A REAL ASS HOLE.

Thats the sweet version.

JD

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Originally posted by J D:

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Hope that all parties involved recover from the incident, both the physical as well as the emotional/mental injuries.

Adrook, why don't you yourself a favor on this one and just keep your mouth shut.

You don't have a damn idea of what you would have done if you had of been in her place with everything that was going on at that moment, none of us do.

Being a total dick and blaiming her for her actions is not doing anyone any good.

Hey Mr. Shoestring Safaris,

I have every idea of what I would have done in her place, I've been hunting and shooting for nearly 40 years and haven't shot anyone yet, never had an accidental discharge, etc. Had it been me I would have made damn sure where the tracker was before I shot my rifle. It's DG hunting, dummy, anything can happen at any time, that's why one should remain extra vigilant and aware of where everyone on the hunt is at any given moment in case something does go wrong. Glad I'm not hunting with some of you fucks.

A PH friend of mine told me that his greatest fear is not getting whacked by an animal but rather getting shot by a careless or excited client. After reading this shit I understand his concern.

I am real impressed how brave you would have been if you had been in this young lady's place.

My old man taught me to keep it short and sweet.

YOU ARE A REAL ASS HOLE.

Thats the sweet version.

JD

Ha Ha

BTW, What's up with listing the guns you own in your sig line? I have a hundred of them but don't feel the need to list them. As anyone who knows me will confirm I am an asshole but at least I'm not an ASS WIPE.

Its a DRSS thing.

JD

My condolences to Brittany, Punki, and all involved. A very unfortunate by product of hunting dangerous game that could happen to anybody. If you think it couldn't possibly happen to you, then that is because you would be the unsavory character who would have turned tail and run at the sound of the first growl. Standing your ground like a man (sorry, Brittney!) and acting to the best of your ability to control the situation is all we can hope to do. There is no way to be 100% certain of anything in these situations. The speed of this type of action is hard to comprehend. You do your best and hope everything turns out o.k. There are no guarantees in DG hunting. I've only been involved in one cat charge in my hunting career, which ended with a dead cat and no one injured. While I still go after cats regularly, I hope to never have that experience again. Best wishes, Brittany.

Bill

A sad story for sure. I pray all involved a speedy physical or mental recovery.



Adrook,

Nothing changes.

I see it for what it is. A DG Hunt gone bad. And as far as what happened? It was an accident. I wish all of them a quick recovery!!!

adrook nice to know that you would rather watch a man die getting mauled by a leopard then by making a split second desision and shooting the cat

i would rather shoot a guy in the hip and have the man survive then watch him get mauled and eaten.

After reading the two police reports, I am not sure of the extent of the man's injuries. It could have been mentioned and I missed it. Anyone know where he was hit?

Add me to those who understand that accidents happen to the best of us.

Bill Quimby

adrook, you were not there so how the HELL can you ssay you know what should have been done!! This attack took 3 seconds!! The fact is she did not know he was there and she would not have shot if she did know... just remember this can happen to you too.... she shot him with a 300 win mag and Punki is doing great he might be released from ICU today. I will keep you all posted and thank you to everybody for your suport we all at Omujeve really apreciate it!! Corne Kruger

I just want to thank all of you for your overwhelming support. This is a very tough deal for Brittany, and obviously a bad deal for all concerned--especially Punki. We are in camp, but Punki just phoned from the hospital, and is doing amazingly well, with very good prognosis for a full recovery. The wound was a glancing blow on the hip, with the primary issue serious blood loss. Nic and his crew did a fantastic job of administering first aid and getting him to a hospital quickly, and thanks to these efforts he will be just fine and will hunt with his dogs again, probably later this season. I have asked Brittany to stay out of this discussion; you have the facts, and I don't think anything is served by her rehashing or attempting to further clarify a very confusing set of circumstances that, per our camera timeline, lasted less than 3 seconds start to finish. But she joins me in thanking you for your support and kind words. With best regards to you all,
Craig Boddington

I'm in Guam on business and just took a quick look to see what's happening in our hunting world.
WOW never expected a story like this.
I sure hope everyone really does make a full recovery.
It's a dangerous game we play.

I've never hunted dangerous game but can see how this sought of thing can so easily happen. Someone mentioned 'the fog of war'. That is so true. I hope it never happens to me in my hunting career. It is after all, dangerous game hunting.

I hope Punki makes a quick recovery. I'm sure the Boddingtons are honourable people and will make sure he gets the best possible medical care.

Hey CTB

My email is down ... give Brittany a hug for me please. All the best to your crew over there and I hope your friend Punki recovers well. Peter H and Leith send their love to Britt as well.

Cheers mate
Matt

In hunting, things like these do sometime happen, and we have to accept them.

I hope both Brittany and the wounded gentleman recover from this sad ordeal.

My sympathy goes to all involved.

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I second all the best wishes, primarily for Punki and secondly for Brittney. It would be a shame for this unfortunate situation to quench her desire for hunting. Her father is such a great emissary for our sport. This also says so much for the bravery of the trackers that we sometimes take for granted.

+1

Seloushunter

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Originally posted by adrook:
I'm going to be the odd man out here but my old man drilled into me when I was a kid not to pull the fucking trigger unless I was absolutely certain of the target.

The first rules of firearms; treat every gun as if it's loaded, don't point it at anything you don't intend to shoot, and be certain of your target.

She got excited and fucked up, big time, almost killing someone. I don't care who she is, CB's daughter or anyone else, how quickly it happened, heat of the moment or whatever, shooting someone is inexcusable and she bears full responsibility for it. You guys should stop making excuses for it. One of you geniuses even contend that her shooting the tracker may have saved his life by, I assume, scaring off the leopard. Good grief!

Why do I get the feeling that the answer you have given above is because the lady in question is Craig's daughter?

I somehow think your answer might have been a bit different if it was someone else in her position.

You have a problem with her father, be man enough and take it up with him.

Trying to put the blame of what happened in this accident on his daughter is totally uncalled for.

You claim to be a hunter and make a great effort in your handling of firearms, that is great.

But, have been in situations where someone's life was in danger, and you had to d something about it?

That is what she tried to do. Whether that was a reason why the man under attack's life was saved or not is immaterial right now.

No one could tell us what might have happened had she not fired.

I have heard of other clients who have legged it when this sort of thing happene.

At least she had the guts to try and do something about it.

Anyone who has been involved in a hunting accident knows that sick feeling, trying to stop the blood loss and shock, the long trip to get real medical attention, and the days and weeks in hospital and worst of all the nightmares that just don't go away!
Thoughts and prayers for both Punki and Brittany.
Bfly

Sorry to hear this. Yes, very easy to happen, especially with leopard. Hope everyone recovers from the ordeal.

David

Why dont we ask Punki his opinion?

If that was my ass underneath that Leopard I would be thanking someone. No one knows what the cat would have done next.

I dont care who's kid this is, or how old, she and her father are suffering.

Mr. adrook:
I have read alot of tasteless blog posts and rants since the Internet opened the doors allowing anyone with a computer a voice on anything. What you wrote above is the most insensitive dung I've ever read. In one post you have managed to insult two friends of mine, the hunting community, and this forum. While I cannot disagree with your right to say what you've written, I 100% disagree and am insulted by what you've written. If you have any problems with what I've written in this post please feel free to call me directly at 312 226 4047. I presume I'll be hearing from you soon.

Moja

there are reasons why mr spots is considered dangerous. he exhibited them and the young lady responded in proper fashion given the facts in the reports. rather than criticizing her I for one would give here credit for her action.

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Why do I get the feeling that the answer you have given above is because the lady in question is Craig's daughter?

And why do I get the feeling had it been someone different most of these responses would not be the shameless ass kissing that most of them are?

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Why do I get the feeling that the answer you have given above is because the lady in question is Craig's daughter?

And why do I get the feeling had it been someone different most of these responses would not be the shameless ass kissing that most of them are?

Drook,

Don't get desperate, you get enough attention without clutching at straws.

Shameless ass kissing? With an accident of this nature? Come on... Nobody would wish this on anybody, whoever they may be. Of course we are all sorry about what happened, only a tosser wouldn't be.

David

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Originally posted by David Hulme:

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Why do I get the feeling that the answer you have given above is because the lady in question is Craig's daughter?

And why do I get the feeling had it been someone different most of these responses would not be the shameless ass kissing that most of them are?

Drook,

Don't get desperate, you get enough attention without clutching at straws.

Shameless ass kissing? With an accident of this nature? Come on... Nobody would wish this on anybody, whoever they may be. Of course we are all sorry about what happened, only a tosser wouldn't be.

David

Not desperate for attention David, I couldn't give a shit less what a bunch of wankers on the internet think of me. I only stated that she should damn well know what she is shooting at before pulling the trigger. She didn't and someone almost was killed as a result.

I wonder if the responses would be different if it were say, Mark Sullivan's kid, instead?

Speaking for myself, I would be very sorry if it was Mark Sullivan's kid. For the kid, the guy who was shot, whoever was involved....

Nobody is trying to cover up any of what happened - this kid and the PH are accepting accountability, hence the reports. A mistake was made in a tight situation, simply that. It has happened many times before - learn and let it go is what I say.

As to not caring what the wankers on the internet think, come on drook, you know you care! You want us to hate you! You are achieving something like a cult following, keep working it man!

David

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Originally posted by David Hulme:

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Why do I get the feeling that the answer you have given above is because the lady in question is Craig's daughter?

And why do I get the feeling had it been someone different most of these responses would not be the shameless ass kissing that most of them are?

Drook,

Don't get desperate, you get enough attention without clutching at straws.

Shameless ass kissing? With an accident of this nature? Come on... Nobody would wish this on anybody, whoever they may be. Of course we are all sorry about what happened, only a tosser wouldn't be.

David

Not desperate for attention David, I couldn't give a shit less what a bunch of wankers on the internet think of me. I only stated that she should damn well know what she is shooting at before pulling the trigger. She didn't and someone almost was killed as a result.

I wonder if the responses would be different if it were say, Mark Sullivan's kid, instead?

This bait is so weak it is just sad.

Hey, anyone notice adrook spelled backwards is "dork"?

Well, close enough.

adrook it seems like you can not even read properly... In the statements we did state that it took 3 seconds and that she did not know that Punki was under the cat she never saw him trough the high grass so she did the right thing and what we as PH's told her to do. And she would have never shot if she knew he was there. This was a freak accident and it could happen to your insensitive ass aswell!!!
Nic Kruger PH on the hunt

adrook, your posts on this thread have reached a new low, even for you.

Disgusting.

Ignore adrook, just from his language one can see he has no respect for himself, how could he ever respect anybody else.

A very sad incident indeed, and yes it could happen to anybody

I was wondering how long it would take for someone who was not even there to figure it all out. God's speed to all involved!

It is now morning in my part of the internet world and I see that through the night that hackles are raised and fur is starting to fly. It seems to be the normnal process for a lengthy thread regardless of the topic.

The best news is that Punki has phoned the concession to say that he's doing O.k. Nic Kruger has weighed and thanked everyone for their support, and Craig has also weighed and thanked everyone. I'd like to say, "you're very welcome." And very good wishes to Brittney.

That is the important content of this story, not second guessing and firing broadsides. I don't know what an adrook is or where he's from, but I imagine most of us would even try to save his caustic butt if he was the one under one pissed off leopard. Come to think of it, after the smoke cleared there'd be two pissed off pussys.

There but for the grace of God go any one of us who has ever hunted dangerous game. This nightmare could have been so, So much worse than it is.

The Only person who has Any right of recrimination against Brittany in this matter is Punki. Certainly not some asshole sitting behind a computer in who-knows-where.

adrook Read between the lines and stop those stupid comments are you a man or a littel kid

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Hope that all parties involved recover from the incident, both the physical as well as the emotional/mental injuries.

Adrook, why don't you yourself a favor on this one and just keep your mouth shut.

You don't have a damn idea of what you would have done if you had of been in her place with everything that was going on at that moment, none of us do.

Being a total dick and blaiming her for her actions is not doing anyone any good.

I second all of the above. The only consolation is that Brittany is giving herself worse (undeserved) than some dope with a computer.

Adrook, Chipolopolo, Many Thanks for confirming my long held belief that with a little tender loving care from the medical society, an afterbirth can be kept alive, you are both living proof of that, hopefully your parents had some children that actually lived.

Chipolopolo, I could care less if you sucked the sweat off the nuts of the lion you shot, I would bet that you were no where close to being in the same situation as this young Lady was in, and as others have said, if her last name was not Boddington, you and your BHB Adrook would not be running off at the mouth.

Any damn time any one or any group is hunting, there is always the potential for an accident, unless you figure Dick Cheney shot his hunting partner on purpose?

If you two have never had an accident while hunting, Good for You, I haven't either all though I have come close, but not under conditions like Ms. Boddington was under.

I do hope however that if either of you gentlemen ever are involved in a hunting accident, there will be some peckerwood just like you two ready to rub your nose in it.

My best wishes to all involved. Brit & Nic do not need to second guess themselves at all as they did and handled the situation as they thought best and needed to at the time. This type of situation is not anything that they or anyone else should second guess. This is a fast action problem on any charge and you do what you have to do at the time. They both stood their ground and one can not ask for anything else during this 3 second nightmare when a leopard is coming at you. Both Brit and Nic should be proud of the way they handled themselves and that everything worked out in the end.

I can assure you that during a situation like this 90% of clients would have done the exact same thing and the other 10% would have been on their ass trying to run! It is the clients who do not stand their ground who are dangerous.

I do not know how many here have experienced a full out charge from a cat or Buffalo or Elephant, but those who have will agree that during the 3-4 seconds everything goes into slow motion and you are actually very level headed with a very clear picture on what you are doing. It seems like 30 minutes, but the quick 3-4 seconds you are tunnel vision on what you are doing with very precise action.

I have met Brit and talked with her and she is a very dedicated hunter who does take hunting and safety serious and she has no reason at all to second guess anything she did. Yes, it is sad that a tracker was hit in the commotion, but he is doing well and will be back in the bush soon with no regrets and yes, his life might have been saved by what happened as a leopard can kill you in an instant. So Brit and Nic if you read this all the best and keep on hunting and never second guess yourself as that is when you can get hurt.