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I was referring to the poster he was talking about. A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Ha ha, I know, but you never know ... Wilbur Smith wrote: "And the blacks went to the elephant to cut out its tusks with axes .." (paraphrased the WS quotation) But that is an example of a racist post per the resident OCD Naki! Black, Black, Black, Black, Black .... I also like my coffee really white! See I am a racist too. | |||
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Back to your lies and manipulation of the truth I see. You have at last shown your true "colours" outside your patch! You fail to mention that the so caled fellow country man you quote as a credible reference is the real nutjob - just google his background. Oh.... you deleted that post. Over 300 pages showing what a nut job he is. He is even banned from entering some countries because of his extreme political views and campaigns. Now if you use him as a charecter reference, then I rest my case! The internet is full of trainwrecks caused by your dear friend! And stop the lies - no threats were made to shut your site down. Go & read the fact - unless you have deleted them to cover your tracks. I just pointed out to you that such hateful stuff on your site could easily attract that kind of response. At least you have subsequently had the sense to move your racists rants to a secure area and not leave it on public domain. The whole world was able to read your views that Obama would be assasinated! And you call me a racist! I am pretty sure you are on someone's watchlist for your extreme & hateful views. BTW a credible lawyer who both of us know has my original post / letter. So you cannot manipulate the truth outside your patch and get away with it! Here is a challenge - just post the google search link about your friend on the Political forum & let us see how creible he is as your referee! Let every one else on AR decide.
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Trying to change the subject I see OCD Naki ... As for being "off my patch" the last time you tried a smear post, you also got answered and ran off with your tail between your legs. Mehul can come and address you himself I think. As for the "deleted" post, I have no idea of what planet you are on now ... 300 pages ? Really 300 pages!? Ha ha ha ha, you fantasies are appearing again I believe. Just for you ... BLACKS BLACKS BLACKS BLACKS BLACKS BLACKS | |||
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I did not mention names. You are the one doing the smear campaign on a differnt site. can't you read man? - I said "300 pages of google search". "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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I thought I'd better save the post before he changes it again. Credible lawyer? ha ha, I hope not Chester or Dawnroar?! PS Please also don't OCD email me many times a week like you used to. | |||
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Do you know them? I do not! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! Edited to add: Looked back through my records and Naki's bringing up of something from SEPTEMBER 2008 just proves what an OCD he is. Also bullshitted back then too about lawyers subpoenas etc etc. Living in a fantasy zone indeed. I had better stop feeding the troll, as with an OCD it just encourages them. However I still have all the emails, PMs, posts etc, you made and can easily post on a new thread any of your threats. | |||
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This morning my right hand man Green informs me that the Lion have walked down the road back towards the Park. They will be back. Incidentally last night two poachers from outside the district made the mistake of wandering into my scout camp thinking it was a fishing village. Stupid and Stupider got arrested and no doubt a sound thrashing. My guys will keep the bicycles and the shotgun goes to the state. The owner of the shotgun who was not present will also be traced and arrested. The local Judge will receive a haunch of hartebeest, which tends to speed up the judicial procedures. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Insecticides, wells....... | |||
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Andrew has shown so well what the main causes for lion population reductions are. Snares and trapping and poisoning. As part of the land and wildlife areas encroachment by human populations. This picture illustrates it well. Yet how often we see "lion crusaders" and their seeming obsession to want to stop lion sporting hunting?! And again Andrew's posts illustrates very well an example of exactly how lion sporting hunting and all what happens behind the obvious hunt, actually works to conserve lions, give value to the wildlife in the minds of the resident peoples etc. Essential if lion populations in the wild, in competition with human activities are to survive. | |||
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LOL! If this is a reference to me, I'll happily mention some names who might have a very different perspective to offer: 1. J R Lamech 2. His son Dr Deepak Lamech 3. Deepak's father on the list Cecil Perinayagam The last person on the list even wanted me and my father to nominate and second his membership at the Cosmopolitan Club fifteen years ago. He wouldn't ask me for this directly at first, but his wie Mrs Chandra Perinayagam did on multiple occasions, and he asked a common friend of his and my father's Mr R Pathmanathan to put a word in several times. These are all decent people, BTW. Not like the poor relative who spends most of his time on the internet because he has nothing else to do. The best bit is that the moocher and loser in the family comes out with BS where he cannot as much as mention my name, and he has to talk even more crap about me being "banned from entry into some countries." All the while, his grandfather, uncle and his uncle's father in law were out looking for character references from me and my father in order to join one of India's old clubs. Imaginations tend to work overtime in those who are broke, and who suffer from obsessive-compulsive disorder. And yes, I'll be happy to hear from ANY lawyer in India or the USA if Ashok Rajasingh has the balls to try anything. Last I checked, no lawyer works for free or takes a deadbeat client on. ROTFLMAO! Mehul Kamdar "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."-- Patrick Henry | |||
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these kind of debates always pop up but im with zeb and naki on this 1 over population is a possibly 1 of the highest factors over there they reproduce and have lots of kids but with out thinking of the consequnses of how am i gonna feed this thing..and education on how to manage the land is nearly non existant among the black community its fine to have lots of kids if you can support and feed them its not ok to have lots of kids so you can get lots of goverment hand outs. they need to limit the childeren aloud per couple to 1 if you want to have more then prove you can make the money or provide the food to support it if you cant youll be denied and if your found to have more than 1 child arrest the person and thro them in prison for 3-4 years or force them to work in the mines or else where to pay for the extra child and i mean all expenses these people need to be taught that for every thing they do there needs to be accountability. helping the locals is cool but if they arnt willing to help them selves then dont waste the time or money on them untill then we all remember here when they kicked the white farmers off the land and with in weeks or a few months all game populations were decimated i wounder why.....lack of education and knowing how to properly maintain the land and its game befor they teach them how to manage the land they need to go thru sexual education classes and understand that condoms actually prevent more mouths to feed and maybe they should start using them as well as the rampant std's in africa | |||
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Which governments in Africa are giving out "handouts" for having extra children? I think you are confused. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Some people have this almighty chip on their shoulder every time the word 'black' comes into play - in future, so as not to upset or dislodge this boulder it would be wiser to refer to this offensive, racist colour as "a darker shade of pale" | |||
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As a red headed irish man (before i lost it all) do I need to consider myself a very pale black? SSR BTW NAKI is a MORON, don't pay to much attention to him. | |||
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Try South Africa, girls drop out of school to have kids, as they receive a child grant for each,[ up until the age of 18 years] then it gets better. Part of the process of procreating allows for the acquiring of AIDS. A certain white blood cell count gets a state grant, so don't take the anti-rets because then if the white cell count is good, no grant. Then as an example of note, have a look at our President, his prowess as a breeder costs SA [at last publication] R22m pa.[roughly $2.75m]. There was a time when the rural folk all planted their little plots of land with maize, melons and pumpkin, no more, why do all that work? With the amount of cash from grants making it easier to just purchase the goods required. African Socialism running riot. When all the dirty capitalistic entrepreneurs have fled, then the Nordic Nations and sops like Naki mNqundu will dig deep and bail them out. And so on. | |||
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Scriptus I agree that SA does have an out of control population problem, but SA does not have the level of human/wildlife conflict that is common in other African countries due to the fact that most all of your game is found on game ranches. SA is so drastically different than the rest of the safari countries that is really its own case. And Zambia is one of the poorer game countries. Zambia suffers from the major human/animal conflict that is common to every other game country in Africa(except SA). Back to the original post: It is important to note that Andrew is rebuilding a patch of land that was already devoid of game due to the adjacent human settlements. He is working with the locals in hope of providing a situation where everyone, including the animals, win. This would not be possible without the money that hunting brings in. What Andrew is doing very commendable. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Mehul Thambi Post a goolgle search with YOUR name & let us see the result. Your quoting names of my family members only discredits you further, not that more evidence is required. Yes, my grand father was the pioneer (in the 1940s) of that area you allude to. Our family owned the whole street & more. Yes, I owned the house that your friend Satish Babu Vaman tried to seal from me & I had to evict him with a Supreme Court order! Do you want me to post the court ruling on AR? The 3 names you mentioned are closer to me than you could immagine. So what? I know where some of them have moles when swimming! Just because your father or grand father were nominated to membership in some club does not give you credibility. A google search of your name is enough for others to make up their minds. How many countries are you banned from entering because of your radical views? Please tell us! How many guns do you own? How many hunts have you been on & how many animals have your shot? Let us see some credibility of your claims to be a hunter and a shooter! There are many internet hunters and shooters! You have been challenged before by a Punjabi Prince on this acount & you failed to show up! Edited My avatar is a photo of my dad with his first tiger shot in 1951. I also have a leopard skin - shot in 1958 by my dad - in custody with one of the gentlemen mentioned by this member! You will see a historical post of this member claiming that he saw or knew of Satish Vaman walking down the road with a tame / pet leopard - what immagination & audacity to make false claims of my ancestral home! I have not seen a single photo of this member with a gun he ownes or an animal he has shot (yes, I know he owns a 30'06 & a muzzle loader). I would like to know of any others that might have seen or know about such guns & hunting photos. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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If you are honest and intelligent, just do a photo spectrometer test on you skin and prove to us that the results say you are "white"! Who has a chip on whose shoulder? You really think you are "white"? We are all mixed breed mongrels according to scientific DNA tests! Better try to get along "cousin"!
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Glad you all had a say about my post . To all I hate to tell you its not about a racist point at all. Nor was I drunk or drinking at the time you complete wanker Matt! I fully support the work thats trying to be done conserving the animals there and all over africa but i am sick of this sort of hard work going on to help the country and people better themselves and the country. To see them just screw it up out continuing greed and the "wantmore for nothing attitude". To the NZ poster I was born in Scotland for you information and have been in Aussie 90% of my life as a Aussie citizen. I have served in the defence force for 23 years and seen and worked with the Aboriginal here. Its the same trouble, they want equality but on their terms,and it sure as shit isn't working when all you do is put your hand out for money and do nothing for it to benifit yourself!As was said i take my hat off to your work to improve this place for a hunting future but you seem hamstrung before you start for age old problems.Good luck | |||
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Mr. Brown, I answered your question as to which governments are giving hand outs. On going develoments in SA will in a short while see a very real threat to privately owned game. Like all other governments in Africa, wildlife does not feature in the long term plans of the ANC. | |||
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My original post did not mention names or places. You decided to come out and piss on this post! Ok - you own a major hunting & shooting website. Why not have this debate there? What are you scared of? Come on! CHALLENGE! Why hide away form your patch and polute AR? Show us some GUTS & COURAGE army man ! Let us see the FULL history of this issue that YOU decide to publicise on AR. Let us see it on YOUR website! Why do you want to open a new thread on AR? Why did you shut the original one on YOUR own site? Why not continue the old debate on YOUR own site? Tell us! Why? What have you got to hide? What is your agenda? Oh... you deleted the old posts including the provocative ones that started this whole fiasco!....! Now you want to just post my PMs & emails on AR! How convenient!!! Who would trust a web adminstrator who deletes posts on HIS site but wants to debate the subject in another site? I am sure that a large proportion of the hunting & shooting community can check history & make up there own minds! NOTE: Why did you respond to my annonymous post and pull yourself into this muck? Guilty conscience? Goes back to my original post - CHARECTER is the key - those who can stand up & up hold human dignity around them have good charecter! When you start trying to degrade your fellow humans you degrade your own charecter! Just look back at your comments and atitudes towards other people in general and ethnic groups in specific IN YOUR OWN WERB SITE ! You put your hand up and pissed on this post! Enough said!
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Zhaba - thanks for coming out and expressing yourself. Tell us - would you want equality on your own terms or under ther the terms of some other nation / race / culture? What is WRONG with anyone wanting equality on their own terms? THAT IS WHY WE HAVE HUMAN CONFLICT! Do you get it? Unless people learn to respect others, the world is just going to decline further. Unless you take PERSONAL responsibility for your attitudes and actions, you are going to hurt & upset others! Do you get that? BTW - thanks for helping to smoke some rats out of their deep hole!
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NakiTroller, You opened the subject by referring to something from almost four years ago! You brought it to AR, but then think you can hide here and not be challenged. Take responsibility for your own obsessions. BTW I have been a member here since 2002, so there is no reason a discussion of YOUR post, on THIS FORUM is not applicable. As I said earlier I haven't deleted anything. Everything still exists irrespective of your lies and assertions. This thread isn't about you and your fantasies and attention seeking. Only an OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) would still be obsessing about something from September 2008. As you mention Character, exactly, and that is why I do not allow your lies to be perpetrated. You have no character or reputation of standing. Please find a suitable rock to hide under again. The AR members of which I am one, know what they are dealing with here. BTW I sent Andrew an apology by PM as soon as I challenged your lies, for my off topic posts. HAVE YOU apologised to Andrew for your introducing your racist agendas and comments? *** BTW to anyone interested, I posted the quotation of Wilbur Smith which NakiTroll demanded be removed and which he claimed was racist. This quotation is on this thread: http://forums.accuratereloadin...151064071#2151064071 "the wild animals always come off losers, unless we hunters can pay the bill for them" BTW can anyone understand how anyone sane could find that quotation so objectionable as to go off one's top? Oh it does say "swarming black humanity" .... how terrible .... NakiTroller probably doesn't even remember it was the passage which set his eyes rolling in his head in anger over the "racism" last time. Interestingly it is almost exactly the same topic as what Andrew is doing as discussed on this thread. Dealing with locals and the competing interest of man vs wildlife. I recommend people interested in Andrew's work also read that Wilbur Smith quotation, as it supports exactly what he is doing as a fictional piece. | |||
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Prior to the 1990s, was any South African Government REALLY concerned about the LONG TERM welfare of human beings of indegenous African origin? How do you see the welfare of human beings (in their historical & cultural context) in relation to the welfare of wildlife?
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You are the troll. YOU pissed on this post with names and history. If you had not responded with all the BS, no one would have known what it was about! The Wilbur Smith quote was not the issue. You deleted and censored the real issues! There are others who know the facts too! Again I challenge you to open up the original post and subject for public discussion without censorship & abuse! Have you got the guts Army man?
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Nitrox Who started this human rights issues? Can you read English? Do you have a sense of honesty & objectivity? I see you have had lots to say about my post but said very little about shooting African villagers who want to protect their livestock! Enough said!
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Let me apologise publicly to Andrew and other AR members for my unintended part in this post going off thread. I see it as an ironical fact that Andrew is battling the same isues on the ground that I tried to highlight at a social / political level. You cannot judge any village community on the basis of your own modern standards and expect it to hold water! Condemning them and moaning and whining and wanting to shoot them will not help. Great on Andrew for respecting the locals and working with them. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Nitrox Now let us see you apologise to ALL AR members including myself for pissing on this post when there was no need to! If you are man enough, then take up the challenges I posed earlier! DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS? Edited: Enough said. I am not going to post on this thread for a while. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Hoo bloody ray ! ! | |||
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Naki,I am all for equality etc what i don't agree with is the two sided coin affect were someone wants one side (the money, the lifestyle etc etc) but then when it doesn't suit,well lets flip the coin.I once listen to an Indian professor speak on the diverse world we live in now and he said" if you want equality...get a job and pay taxes beacuse thats the world we live in now" and i don't see to much wrong with that.I have seen first hand the so alled"protection" of cattle in Zim. I drove thought a ranch that USED to empoly the locals,farm around 5000 cattle and hunt a huge number of species from elephant to duiker as well. It was "taken over" and within two years there was nothing but a few TB riddled cattle,crocs and hippo in the river as the new "owners" were unable to set snares for them and NOTHING ELSE! I find that extreamly wrong. | |||
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How the NakiTroller crap started:
NakiTroller, the self righteoud attention seeker.
Naki the Hypocrite. BTW if you want to see what caused NakiTroller to be upset about all the racism, see the quotation in this post. Yep that's all there was to set off this loony. http://forums.accuratereloadin...391015071#7391015071 "the wild animals always come off losers, unless we hunters can pay the bill for them"
Bullshit per Naki the self admitted titled "Black Racist". And Indian living in New Zealand detested even by his fellow Indians. I wonder why he no longer lives in India? Hoo Bloody Ray Indeed! We can now get back on topic. | |||
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Actually I just happen to fall into the lighter shade of pale which by comparison to you would be difficult to put me in your class of mongrels. Damned if I know why you like it so much in NZ when even the national rugby team is called the "All Blacks" and don't go back to Capitalist India where you could really do something beneficial for the down-trodden millions or would the capitalist Patels and Premjis kick your butt all the way back to NZ? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Nakihunter: If you are honest and intelligent, just do a photo spectrometer test on you skin and prove to us that the results say you are "white"! Who has a chip on whose shoulder? You really think you are "white"? We are all mixed breed mongrels according to scientific DNA tests! Better try to get along "cousin"! Actually I just happen to fall into the lighter shade of pale which by comparison to you would be difficult to put me in your class of mongrels. Damned if I know why you like it so much in NZ when even the national rugby team is called the "All Blacks" and don't go back to capitalist India where you could really do something beneficial for the down-trodden millions or would the Patels and Premjis kick your butt all the way back to NZ? ..... | |||
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I tried that but my kids just won't listen! | |||
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Why don't you take this racist crap elsewhere as it detracts from a real problem which is the subject of this thread. Feel free to engage your delusions elsewhere. Jeff | |||
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Thanks Bwana. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Lions in Zambia and issues with local villagers - what is the latest news Andrew? "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Latest all quite. Going in shortly for a few days to poke around. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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nothing like going into a african village and having some piss poor bloke ask you for hand outs for his 11 kids....last time that happend to me i gave the guy a dollor for a condom and told my traker to tell the guy in his native language if you had used this in the first place you wouldnt have 11 mouths to feed. now if all he/she has is 1 child then i dont mind giving them a few bucks and some food because obv these people can control them selves same gose for over here in north america i know of a local woman with 9 children yet she dosnt have a job the kids all come from 4 different fathers. a woman like this should be arrested and thrown in prison for leeching the system for 4/5 years and all of her children taken away and given to foster parents. and another example i know a woman localy that was told by the doctor that she would have a 80% chance of having a retarded kid.... what dose she do she went out and had 7 kids all of them mentaly retarded and 2 of them so bad there life time vegatables meaning some 1's gonna have to dress them and wipe there ass for the rest of there life. this woman should be hung after being told there would be a 80% chance of retardation i mean why would you do this knowing all your kids are gonna come out fucked up. i have zero sympathy in my heart for people like this. | |||
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