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Looks like a sweet rig .. thinking of picking one up, just wondering if anyone is shooting one yet opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | ||
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I just picked one up in 243 and it's not quite as accurate as my CAR (Colt Accurized Rifle) 6724 in 223. I think it's a DPMS build and I just bought a .308 upper from Wendel here on AR (Deal went very well) but I really haven't shot it much, haven't shot the 308 at all. We're having a non-summer in upstate NY. The action feels "gritty" on both uppers. I already have a 2 stage trigger in the lower. Feeds well, goes bang. I'm hoping after a break-in of some period they'll both settle down a bit and shoot as good as most AR's | |||
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I guess i'll have to get one and try .. I think a 6 pos stock, a trigger clean up, and a vais brake would make it a GREAT atv rifle opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I've put out feelers for an r25 .. in a week or two, i'll get it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I have this stock on most of my AR's... It's like a rock. http://www.midwayusa.com/Searc...k____-_1-2-4_8-16-32 | |||
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thanks .. i was looking at stock options... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeff, I've got one. It's a great rifle. Very accurate. I have an aimpoint red dot mounted on mine and can consistently hit 1 gallon jugs of fruit drink at 300 yards - and I'm not an expert shot by any means. So far, other than drink jugs, I've taken 1 pig, 1 whitetail and one axis with it. All were one shot kills. The rifle has very little muzzle flip and is back on target in a nanosecond. I had it at the range today and tried some new, DPMS 19 round mags (the rifle comes with a 4 round). The rifle would jam after the 5th - 7th shot. I tried two mags; same problem with each. As luck would have it, there was another guy shooting one next to me. He offered to let me use his 19 round mag by a different manufacturer. I did and the rifle functioned flawlessly. Go figure. I sent an email to DPMS customer service. We'll see what they have to say. NRA Endowment Member | |||
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Was able to shoot mine today and had the same thing happen... The 243 fed very well yet the 308 (same mags) would FTF 2-3 times per mag. It wouldn't raise the back-end of the bullet up enough to catch the bolt. Odd. It still shot very well after the first 10 rounds and cleaning. First three rounds in the same hole. (50 yds). I thought I was still sighting in... I've got some of the CProducts Mags on order from 44mag.com http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CP30820 | |||
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Thanks Collins. Wow, the mags you ordered are about half the cost of the DPMS mags! Please let us know how they perform. Once I've talked to DPMS I'll post the result of that conversation. NRA Endowment Member | |||
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With most magazine fed guns, when the gun is fired, the bolt opens ejecting the fired case. It also pushes the rounds in the magazine down, and the magazine spring must push them back up so the bolt face can push the top round into the chamber. It does this to unjam the rounds in the magazine, due to dirt, sand etc. If the rounds are not pushed back up fast enough you have a bolt over base stoppage. You can also have a bolt over base stoppage if the bolt is not being pushed back far enough. To test for this load one round in the magazine and chamber it. Fire the rifle if it locks back, usually the bolt is going back far enough. So... If your magazine springs are strong enough, the magazine lips are ok, and you bolt is going back far enough, you magazine problem might be just a "sticky/rough" magazine. Try this... Take the magazine apart and see if the walls are rough [heavily parkerized maybe], see if the sides of the follower are rough or sharp, if so smooth them up, say, with a sharpening stone. Also lightly lube the inside of the magazine with Break Free, let it set for an hour or two, and wipe out the excess. Reassemble the magazine and test again. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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i was thinking .. 16" with a vais brake and a stainless barrel would be the bee's knees..with a 6 pos stock .. and i started looking .. DPMS used to offer nearly exactly that... I fiddled with an r15 today, with a 6 pos ... its 2" too short, but handy as top pockets... i am very likely to get one of these soon! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Great advice... I did notice the .243 had the gas block at Rifle length as opposed to the .308 where the gas block was at Carbine length. some of the FTF were "fail to eject". Because I'm using the same mags, I think the root cause is the pressure of the system. I'll try a softer main spring and see if this works. While not a huge problem in the scheme of things, it's still notable. | |||
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DPMS offered it with a CM barrel .. but way cheaper than the remington version .. (short barrel, brake, etc) anyone think DPMS guns shoto worth a flip? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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My 458 SOCOM is built on a DPMS SS lower. it's a beast. It's fun to take it to the range and let a 5.56 owner shoot it with the 600 grain Barnes originals loaded... it'll leave a mark  Other than that I think 90% of the accuracy is in the upper, I'll post 100yd groups out of the 308 this afternoon. Collins | |||
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Lube the inside of the reciever and the inside of the bolt carrier, including the gas rings with Break Free. Also the recoil spring/tube. Breaking an AR type rifle in too much lube is better than not enough. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I talked to DPMS about the 19 round magazine failures. They told me they had issues with a couple of batches and will replace mine ASAP. NRA Endowment Member | |||
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