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I am tempted by hunting with the bow in Africa.

Late Bowtech Allegiance and Tribute and Matthews safari apart, is there presently compounds over 80# marketed?


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What animals do you hunt in Africa with the bow?


If you only want to do a plains game hunt you do not need more than 70# and a 500gr arrow.


For thick skinned animals 80# + would be advisable


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Thanks Tmoran.

I looked at Elite archery website.
XLR ATA 37”
BH 8 1/2”
Draw Length 29-32”
Draw Weight 50-90 lbs.
This bow is great, I'd have preferred 100# DW but I suppose they aren't any 100# bow on the market?

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Zimbabwe, february 2009. I am looking for hippo, croc and elephant. I made 4 safaris looking for arrowing a buffalo and never managed, the buffalo is too smart. I hope that hippo and ele are less skittish but they require potent bow and arrows.


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I have a 05 Bowtech Allegiance.

If I ever wanted to attempt any hunt like you want to do I would have Barnesdale build me a custom set of 90 to 100# limbs.

I would then build up to ensure I would be able to shoot @ 100# comfortably after a long hike.

I would not shoot an arrow less than 1200gr.

Grizzly sticks would be the arrow I use.

My broad head would be German Kinetics. I think they make a 230gr head.

This would be my set up as I would want to give nothing to chance that my equipment would not measures up to.

I would also ensure that this set up is accurate out to 50 yards.

Not that I would take a shot that far but to ensure the arrow flies true and I will hit the spot I aim at.

But this is just me... (after doing penetration tests on rhino I really had to re think what set up I would use if I ever have the oppertunaty to hunt one of the think skinned animals)

Good luck and I wish you all the best and may your arrows fly true and penetrate like crazy.

Gerhard


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100lbs bow would be one tough bow to draw.
I can tell you that I used a Bowtech Tribute this last Sept. It was set at 86lbs, the arrows were Grizzly Stiks at 850 grains and German Kinetic broadheads at 180 grains.
Unfortunately I never got a shot at a buffalo, but I did shoot a giraffe at 42 yards and had complete pass through.
 
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I shoot 82# and Easton stopped making 2419 shafts.
Where do I find the Grizzly sticks at a reasonable cost?
 
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You can get Grizzly Stiks at Alaska Bowhunting Supply.
 
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Thanks You all

I got no responses from Elite or Bowtech. Mad

My Bowtech Allegiance and Tribute are both rigged with 90# limbs, I want to get 100# limbs but they are discontinued. Frowner

I am still waiting for an answer from Barnsdale archery. I asked for a pair of 100# Bowtech Tribute limbs. The custom shop is overworked but from what I understand from their website they can more easily provide limbs for Bowtech.)


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Keep talking to the guys at Barnsdale.

They make the best limbs for what you want.

All the best,


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Thanks Gerhard,

Great guy. He has still made 100# limbs for a bowtech bow but didn't remember wether it was an allegiance or a tribute. So he wouldn't need my sending him my bow.
He'll call back tomorrow.
I am most happy. I think I'll order 2 pairs to remain on the safe side. Perhaps 3 as a friend is also using a 100# Tribute and could be reinsured with a backup pair.
Thanks again for your kindness.


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Keep us posted on the new limbs and make sure you take a lot of photos during the hunt.

All the best


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Don't forget to get a heavier string and cable set!

Most stock strings are only OK up to 80lbs.

I'd advise getting a custom set made up with a few more strands (I'd guess at least 4 more). You'll have less stretch and tuning issues to deal with.
 
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I got in touch with Dave Barnsdale.

Incredible!!!!!!!!

On tuesday the 3 pairs of 100# limbs will be made and shipped.

Are You aware of a better guy. This guy deserve a thread.

Thanks especially to Gerhard who had the bright idea of directing me toward Dave
Thanks to you all,
thanks BigGuy, I am looking for custom made string and cables.


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I had pass throughs on all of my animals again this past August shooting a Mathews switchback set at 70lbs with a 125 grn steelforce broadhead on a carbosn express 350. The eland was standing broadside at 35 yards and it zipped him and he went less than 50 yards. I am looking to what everyone says about the heavier draw bows for a buf hunt in Australia. I have a high country at 80lbs but it is getting a little old. I look forward to others comments or advise.


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drwes,

I would use the exact same setup for a buff hunt in Austalia as the setup I have mentioned earlier.

Those Water Buff can be mean customers and they have very thick skin and bones just like the Cape Buff.

Hope this helps


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