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After nearly 2 years I have finished my first and probably last 1917 sporter. Many here told me it would be too hard for me (a bubba) and they were correct but I did it anyway. I got the Remington P17 for $150 with a shot out barrel and and broken stock. Today it has a new ER Shaw barrel, Richards stock, crossbolts and bedded. I welded on a new bolt handle and straightened the bottom metal. Modified a magazine box from Numrich and did a bunch of mill work on the action to get it to feed right. It hold 4 rounds. I kept the bolt release and safety the same. 81 grains of RL-15 and 400 grain bullets average 2477 FPS and today I shot a sub 1" 100yard group. There are a lot of things that many of you could have done better than me (some of you are artists) but I am still proud of what I accomplished.





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Looks good! Looks like just the right amount of scope as well... Good choice.
 
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good one guy...those P-17 rifles belong to the .416 mag class.....the heaft is welcome in that round....

Now get the three position safety added and you're home free.....BTW it includes a cock on opening feature as well....


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I like it!!!

but I am a sucker for the safety, and I don't mind a dogleg bolthandle either!!

on the last picture... if you want a slightly slicker look, you can mill off about .05 infront of the ejector box button, bend and temper the spring, and have a cleaner look...

but it's not required.

I never tried rl15 in my 416 rem... just starting load of win760 and had 2385... couldn't break 2400 with a couple different powders with decent pressure..

good on ya!!

jeffe


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Are you kidding, that is great. What a wonderful rifle and yes I am sure the added weight will help with the recoil. Everyone needs to experience something out of the box in their lives at least once.
Great job
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sure looks good to me, if i coul do that well i would go to a trae school, ...tj3006


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DrScott-

She is a beauty!! Being something of a 1917 fan myself, I am impressed.

Your stock is really nice; I really like the forend.

Tell us more.


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Thanks for the kind words. Prior to this P17 I have done a 7x57, a 30-06, a 458WM and a 6.5x55 all on Mauser actions. Each one gets a little better as my skills improve.

I kind of agree with Jeffe-I like the safety and I don't mind the cock on close. Right now I have the military trigger on it - it has a lot of travel before it breaks but it is very smooth. I have a Leupold 2.5X in Leupold QRW rings on it. The rear sight is a NECG with one fixed and one folding blade. The front sight is also NECG with a brass bead and a flip up "ivory" bead. The grip cap and forend tip are ebony. Richards did a good job on inletting this stock but I had a lot of wood to remove on the outside from the wrist and the forend. It weighs in at 9.5 pounds. Felt recoil is slightly more than my 375 H&H and a lot less than the 458 WM with 500 grain bullets at 2050 fps.

The keys to getting it to feed were in having the right sized magazine box and in the milling/shaping of the underside of the forward half of the feed rails. I used an article on building 416 Rigbys and 505 Gibbs that someone suggest from an old ACGG journal to get me started.

I can't wait to take it to Africa next year.

Scott
 
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DrScott,

That is a really nice looking 1917! Good job. Can I see a pic of you straightened bottom metal? I have a 1917 that has a straightened bottom on it but whomever did it didn't do a very good job.
 
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DrScott, nice rifle "bubba"!!!! Nice work on erradicating the "dogleg"!
 
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Beautiful work!!! Smiler

I have a M1917 in pieces in various places around my house.

I guess I have something to aspire to.

Once again, a beautiful rifle.

ZM
 
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Did you do all of the stock finishing work and checkering as well?

Nice Rifle. Congratulations. cheers
 
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Very nicely done. BTW if anyone is interested I have a 1917 Remington action with straightened handle, ground ears and cock on opening, London Guns drop magazine and London Guns 3 leaf sight and base I'd like to sell as a package. PM if interested.
 
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The only part I didn't do myself was grinding off the ears because that had already been done.

I will try to get a reasonably clear picture of the bottom metal with my cheap camera and post it tonight or tomorrow.
 
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I think you did a super job. I like the original safety, also like the way you did the bolt handle.


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i think it looks great. my personal take is i'd rather have a rifle i'd done myself complete w/ whatever flaws make it thru than one i had someone else do. anybody with money can pay to have a rifle built. when you do it yourself, it's YOUR GUN! nobody who pays to have one built can ever claim it that to the same degree.
 
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Here is the best I could do for a picture of the bottom metal.

You can't tell it from the picture but the metal just forward of the front edge of the floorplate did not rust blue very well - it looks patchy.
 
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That a very good looking rifle. I give you an A
for you choice of scope. I envy you!
 
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