Well thanks to the wife saying do both I have ordered a Ruger 10/22. Will not be as fancy as the one it is replacing. Will get a custom barrel and trigger rework.

As to the bolt. Doing a lot of reading over on rimfire central as to the 455 good and bad. Also on the look out for a nice Kimber or quality used bolt action.

I have Magnum Research 22 autos in 22LR and 22 Mag. Both are very accurate and reliable. The LR has a light carbon wrapped barrel and the magnum a heavy stainless tube. I carry the LR more.

Walther GSP carbine
Anschutz 1710 HD B
A custom Mauser like Joel Dorleac's
Or a custom built on a Stiller 2500 XS or Hall repeater
Depends on your taste...

You can sink $1500 in a 10/22 with aftermarket parts or you can find a smith to work wonders on a factory stock rifle. I had Cameron Dearborne do a triger job, recrown, recut the chamber and put a adjustible bedding block all for the princely sum of $300. It out shoots my Volquartson. Ruger barrels are great but the chambers are slopy. This applies to the 77/22 too. I have 3 of them and they are all 1/4" guns @ 50yrs after just a little work by Cameron.
If you are looking for a project go with a ruger. In the end you will have a rifle that shoots well but won't hold its value. Or you could cut to the chase and buy a Cooper that looks as good as it shoots and will hold its value.
I have one of everything when it comes to .22 rifles and keep gravitating back to my Cooper 57 and the 10/22 that Cameron worked over as they are the most shootable scoped rifles I have.

Another option is to find a old Winchester 69 or 52 or a Remington 541 as they were some of the best off the rack factory guns.

You buy a Ruger 22/45 then buy a Supressor for it then add Red dot sight and you have a lightweight quiet .22lr that will do anything you want. The price doesn't add up to much, actually far less than the Kimber and scope. I ordered one of the Kimber varmint rifles in .17Mach II when they first came out ,fitted it with a 3-10 Leupold and haven't seen a box of .17Mach II's since. Did they quit making them? Talk about accuracy,it's phenominal. Group size usually less than a .22 hole. Sure would be nice if you could get some ammo for it.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:
Well thanks to the wife saying do both I have ordered a Ruger 10/22. Will not be as fancy as the one it is replacing. Will get a custom barrel and trigger rework.

As to the bolt. Doing a lot of reading over on rimfire central as to the 455 good and bad. Also on the look out for a nice Kimber or quality used bolt action.

Paul, I did one probably 7-8 years ago and used a Whistle Pig barrel. It's a really neat barrel. It has a bull barrel contour but the barrel is made out of aluminum with a stainless steel barrel liner. It actually weighs less than a factory sporter. It has a re-worked trigger and sits in a Hogue stock. It's both light and accurate. Most of the time I shoot it with sub sonics and a can.

I bought a Bushmaster Carbon-15. AR with Carbon Fiber upper and lower. About 6 pounds. Did a little accurizing and stuck my old Ciener 22lr conversion in it.

My lovely wife picks it up, and says "Is this what you're building me for a retirement/25th Wedding Anniversary?"

Ummmmmmmmm, I guess I did...

It's about a 1moa rifle at a hundred yards with the Jewell trigger set at two pounds.

I got myself a stainless 10-22 to build on.

Amazing ! We ALL want a nice .22LR Rifle. I would never be without one. I have a CZ and a CBC. The CBC is 29 years with me this year and it has LOTS of stories to tell!.....

The REAL question.What price point??Win Sporter 52C,B,Steyr Zephyr,Anchutz in descending cost(6k down) or go over the top custom by Dorleac, Biesen,Brownell all really slick!

An adult sized, classic styled 22 brings to mind the Euro trainers like the Romanian posted above.

How about it's spiritual successor, the Zastava offering? They run about $180 on the various web stores. You don't seem adverse to a "project" gun, so the stock shouldn't be a problem, I've seen some at gunshows with pretty good grain, just blah finishes.

Realguns Zastava review

I have a Marlin semi auto that shoots very tight groups.....but it needs a fancy stock with a shadowline cheekpiece.....is there such a thing as a pattern for this?....It deserves a dressing up and You have the duplicator....maybe the idea also appeals to you?...

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Originally posted by ramrod340:As to the bolt. Doing a lot of reading over on rimfire central as to the 455 good and bad.

About 3 years ago, I got a combo .22lr/.22mag in 455. It came with the mag barrel
installed and is a tack driver with Hornady 30gr, but is a bit disappointing with
other rounds. Doubt if it will ever see the .22lr barrel installed, though.

If you get a 455 and plan to pillar it, just know it's a whole different ball game
than the 452 (or any other rifle I've ever pillared/bedded)! I've gotten quite a
bit of help from the guys over at rimfirecentral on that one.

Or you could do something a bit less conventional.

I'm just finishing a single shot .22 BPCR silhouette rifle-Winder action, Shilen barrel, English walnut stock from Treebone carving, with 9x scope built by a gunsmith in TX. First groups with SK Std.+ were 3/8" at 50 yds. and ~1" on a metal pig at 120 meters, with a 4 lb. trigger that still needs work.

I have a BSA single shot, similarly equipped, and I expect groups <3/8" with it if I do my part.

Clarence

How about a Dakota 22LR?

There are a few of them around. To my mind, they are the most handsome 22LR rifles I have ever seen.

For hunting rifle size and weight--Kimber American--shoots like the glory go God

for dedicated 22--Browning t-bolt-several nice models

In the real used market there isn't much nicer than a winchester M-61 pump---great gun

Find a BRNO mod 1 or 5!

Finnished to a much higher standard then todays CZ 452/455!

Otherwise, I would opt for a CZ 452 American.
Built like a real rifle!

I'm somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned a Sako. I'd strongly consider a 78 or if you want more like a full size the Finnfire. They are both non-current and not cheap but usually extremely accurate for sporters. They now have a Finnfire II out which I have not tried so can't comment but it is a Sako.

OTOH, if you want to step up I have a couple of the anniversary or whatever they were called Anschutz's with VERY high grade Am. Walnut NIB that I would consider selling. I paid something like or over $1500 many years back. I'd take $2000 shipped.

A Remington 510X is nice and light, mine shoots 5/8" groups at 50 yards. They're not common but appear now and then.

If you want a real nice 22lr, look at these..

http://www.canyoncreekgunstocks.com/Display.asp

Anschutz.

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Originally posted by swampshooter:
Anschutz.

+1 . . . but expensive.

You can get almost as good in an out-of-the-box CZ for less money.

I own an Anschutz 1517 (64 action, .17 HMR) and a CZ 452 (Silhouette, .22LR). Both are very accurate, but the CZ is several hundred dollars cheaper. And my shooting brother has a CZ455 Varmint in .17HMR which is equally accurate and is a very pretty rifle.

The most accurate RF rifle I've ever shot was a fully tricked out Anschutz.

IMO, the Anschutz is in a league of its own, but an out-of-the-box CZ is a better bang-for-buck rifle.

Find an A-Bolt.

My all time favorite 22 L.R.s have been the Winchester 63 auto, they are just so damn accurate! and pretty..The one I have now is scoped with Buhler rings and bases and a 4X compact Leupold. it shoots an inch or better at 75 yards all day long.

Sometime ago I customized a mod. 63 with a quarter rib, barrel band swivel, barrel band front sight, bases were an extension of the quarter rib going back to the rear of the action, and dovetailed for Talley rings and talley detachable peep and a Leupold Alaskan 7/8" 2.5X Scope..

The stock was an exhibition plus piece of dark Russian Circasion walnut with no loading port on the side, I used a steel simi cresent butt plate with a trap door and an extended magazine to lengthen the stock and loaded it through the butt plate. straight grip and mullard border checkering, It was beautiful. unfortunately I took it on a Rock Chuck hunt and hammered the chucks with head shots and a gent with more money than I tried it and just had to have it so I sold it to him high dollar, leaving me with only pictures of my darling!a So I built another and it sold quickly also..dammit.. Will I build another? probably not, they are a love of labor and time, some farmed out and that takes forever, I did the wood. The one I have now is original other than the scope D&T, and its been here a long time!

The remington 510 X is a great idea if you want a single shot. You should also consider the model 511.All of the X models have grooved receivers.Quite a few of the later models do also.They are very good shooters and light to carry.

fun build?
10/22 - every time

NEAT build?
an 80% 10/22 action, scratch built, with a threaded into the action barrel, stainless? delrin buffer, 1:9 twist shilen barrel, custom bolt and trigger group, ... and shoot SSS bullets with a linear 10/22 compensator

dream build?

brno 1 or cz - build just like any other custom rifle

A Remington 540 shoots light out. And I a m a Winchester guy - well I became that after years on AR.

But I sold it to get a new CZ 455 Trainer. I hope it is good when it gets here.

Soon mine...

I have a Marlin in .22 Mag while it is not expensive with a decent 1" scope it is dead nuts accurate!!

Well I did order the 10/22. It sat in the box for months. Then the guy next door offered to buy it for his son's birthday. So I sold it. Decided to go with a full KIDD minus the stock. Then got sick so I'm way behind. Hopefully 2016 will be the year of catch up.

Nortman have fun with your new toy.