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Got to shoot a .45-90 yesterday

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08 February 2020, 17:18
Bill/Oregon
Got to shoot a .45-90 yesterday
It was a Winchester/Miroku Highwall with straight grip and lightweight octagon barrel. Just fired one shot -- gong at 220 yards with open sights. Load was 76 grains of Goex FFg under the Lyman Postell bullet. Accurate, but I would not want to shoot a whole match with that rifle.


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09 February 2020, 07:24
bpesteve
Except for the light barrel part, that sounds like a nice rifle. I've recently ended up with an Uberti Highwall, straight grip, shotgun butt (thank goodness), 28" heavy round barrel, in 45-70 that has shown a definite preference for the 500 gr government bullet over 60 grs of Swiss 1-1/2Fg. The velocity is pretty low, but it's accurate as all get out and isn't quite as punishing as I thought it would be. 76 grs with the big Postell bullet sounds pretty stout; I'm sure one would have been plenty for me as well!
09 February 2020, 23:18
dpcd
Except that is not a 45-90; you fired a Sharps 45-2.4.(clone)
The 45-90 was a Winchester thing with an express 300 grain bullet.
You know this however.
11 February 2020, 22:54
Bill/Oregon
Steve, glad to hear you are getting satisfying accuracy from your Uberti High Wall. Uberti, like Pedersoli, can make a very good barrel.
Tom, you are historically correct, amigo.

Cool

Here is the entry for this cartridge from Frank Sellers's "Sharps Firearms":

.45 CALIBRE 2.4-INCH STRAIGHT
While this cartridge is commonly called the ".45-90" by today's collectors, the Sharps Company never loaded it with less than 100 grains of powder. It was used exclusively as a target load in the Model 1874, Model 1877 and Model 1878 Long-Range rifles. The cartridge was introduced on June 8, 1877. The common load in this was .45/100/500 paper patch.


I love dogs so much more than people.
11 March 2020, 12:16
Bad Ass Wallace
No local matches, but I do enjoy range time with my Sharps 50/70. If I had been told that a 50cal could shoot like this one, I would have called them bonkers!



Likewise the 577 "Super Snider" which shoots a 620gn 58cal bullet ahead of 95gns of 2F black.

Left to right; 38/55, 40/65, 45/70, 50/70, 58/95 and 22 Hornet




Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer!
If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead!

11 March 2020, 17:00
boom stick
Do you mind me asking what a “Super Snider” is? Thanks beer

quote:
Originally posted by Bad Ass Wallace:
No local matches, but I do enjoy range time with my Sharps 50/70. If I had been told that a 50cal could shoot like this one, I would have called them bonkers!



Likewise the 577 "Super Snider" which shoots a 620gn 58cal bullet ahead of 95gns of 2F black.

Left to right; 38/55, 40/65, 45/70, 50/70, 58/95 and 22 Hornet




577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
"Bubba" by the grace of God.

Four legs good! Two legs baa-d!

E Pluribus Popularem et Republican (Out of many, Democrat and Republican)

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created … by the — you know — you know the thing.”

Joe Biden.
11 March 2020, 17:52
Bad Ass Wallace
A normal Snider was built on a rifle known to have a "suicide breech. The Super is built on a Martini Henry action with a new Walther barrel. Much stronger allowing a full case of BP to be used.


Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer!
If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead!

11 March 2020, 18:41
Bill/Oregon
Love your Super Snider concept, Bad Ass.


I love dogs so much more than people.
11 March 2020, 19:57
boom stick
Cool!
Is the brass as strong as 577 Nitro?
Can you use shortened 577 brass?


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
"Bubba" by the grace of God.

Four legs good! Two legs baa-d!

E Pluribus Popularem et Republican (Out of many, Democrat and Republican)

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created … by the — you know — you know the thing.”

Joe Biden.
12 March 2020, 06:44
Bad Ass Wallace
quote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
Cool!
Is the brass as strong as 577 Nitro?
Can you use shortened 577 brass?

Am using reformed 24ga Magtec brass shotshells. The reamer was supplied by PT&G and is labeled as their 'drawn brass' version. The chamber is very tight requiring a special sizer die (CH4D) also labelled "Martini-Snider"

Some shells have been fired 8 times and still retain minimum expansion, in fact a fired shell will hold a new projectile firmly.

The project was to test the inherent accuracy of an old cartridge in a modern rifle; I believe we have achieved that!


Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer!
If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead!

12 March 2020, 07:08
boom stick
You are a trailblazer. Awesome. I think there is a niche for a 577 NE shortly for smokeless powder in the length range of 2”-2.25” for game under 200 yards. 650 grains @ 2150 ish and 750@ 1900.


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
"Bubba" by the grace of God.

Four legs good! Two legs baa-d!

E Pluribus Popularem et Republican (Out of many, Democrat and Republican)

“We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created … by the — you know — you know the thing.”

Joe Biden.
12 March 2020, 21:08
Bill/Oregon
Gad. All I need is another rifle build project ...

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I love dogs so much more than people.