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I make a lot of ground venison (what we call "mince") out of kudu, wildebeest, etc. to a proportion of 80% venison and 20% quality mutton. I recently experimented with making a burger "tube" by filling a 4" irrigation pipe with this meat (onion, bread and spices added), freezing it and then removing it from the pipe. All looked good, except that I found it very difficult to cut with the bandsaw as the frozen meat slipped around dangerously. Any tips on how to cut it into burgers and then freeze again? Initial shaping, etc. 2) How can I bind the meat better? This plain recipe did not hold its shape very well. I had hoped to cut it into shapes and then freeze again with little spacers to be able to thaw individually. Thanks. | ||
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vacuum bagger you must add some fat to the meat 5-15% | |||
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Thanks Butch. The mutton adds a good amount of fat. I don't have a vacuum sealer. My question may be unclear: I want to be able to slice the roll of hamburger meat into patties and then freeze them. How do I easily cut the patties and then how do I store them in tubular form? Thanks. | |||
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Patty, parchment paper, patty, parchment paper stacked and then stored in what ever arrangement meets your freezing method(s). I guess one could substitute wax paper, not sure if wax paper will impart taste or imputrities. Don't limit your challenges . . . Challenge your limits | |||
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Fill the pipe with chilled meat. Fashion a disc to fit the inside diameter to act as a piston. Push the meat tube out onto a length of plastic wrap. Roll the wrap around the meat tube. Put in the freezer to stiffen it up but not quite frozen. Remove, cut the burgers with a knife, wrap and freeze. Use freezer paper spacers.
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Thanks. Looks like I just need to do it in two stages as cutting is easier before the meat is solidly frozen. The second question: What do you use to bind your meat better? I like that my recipe is simple, but would prefer it stiffer. | |||
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eggs, oatmeal, rice | |||
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This is how I do it.It will keep two plus years with no burn     | |||
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I wonder if you wouldn’t have better luck stuffing your ground meat into one of the ground meat bags(tubes) and chilling it until stiff(lightly frozen) and then cutting patties with a knife right through the bag. Then you could stack the patties with parchment paper in between and wrap in plastic wrap. These are the ground meat bags I’m referring to: https://www.sausagemaker.com/5...-Pack-p/17-2412.htm# Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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For binder, use eggs and bread crumbs. I never add beef fat or any other type of domesticated meet to my burger grind. I am eating "elk" cause I want elk, not beef. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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When it was just me + my 3 sons I didn't have to worry about long term storage. Between them + their high school buddies, I would go through venison pretty quick. When the word went out that I was making venison chili, those young men would show up in droves. 35+ years later when I see those grown young men in town they still call me Dad. I appreciate that. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Cliff Claven is alive and well in Austin, and seen regularly on this forum! NRA Patron Life Member Benefactor Level | |||
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Thanks All Some good tips here. | |||
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