What are you asking?

No good in the USA. The ban on the use of lead shot for hunting waterfowl was phased-in starting with the 1987-88 hunting season. The ban became nationwide in 1991.

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Originally posted by Gary Surko:
What are you asking?

Did you notice the wad?

It doesn't always work as expected.

Norseman

I shoot Winchester Expert 1550fps steel loads for my waterfowl hunting they work very well and are cheap compared to others.

No need to reinvent the wheel

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Norseman

I shoot Winchester Expert 1550fps steel loads for my waterfowl hunting they work very well and are cheap compared to others.

No need to reinvent the wheel

P dog shooter,

These are lead loads not steel.

What do you mean by "No need to reinvent the wheel"?
Are you trying to say that Winchester Expert has the same wad design and set up?

Not new. The concept dates from the 19th Century!

In Britain cartridges were loaded with what looked like an upside down "trash" can in cardboard to attempt to achieve the same effect.

OK it wasn't "hi-tech" plastic but usually shaped fibre but the shape was the same.

Problem is that ANY sort of overshot wad will at some time disrupt the pattern and give a "blown" pattern with no centre.

These things don't endure because they don't work.

A tight pattern at longer range is easiest achieved by simply dropping the initial muzzle velocity by 50fps or more and going up a shot size.