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Here in Idaho we have traditional hunts. This hunt in a nut shell, is for the Hawkins type of gun, no sabot bullets, and loose powder. There are some guys that are finding inlines that match the regulations. I decided last year to try to put together a gun that will shoot large lead bullets with the best of them.
I started out with a stock and lock from a TC renegade I got off ebay. I put on a Green Mountain Stainless steel LHR (long range hunter) Barrel. The barrel has a 1-28 twist.
I shot this gun last year a little and it shot very well with the No Excuses 460 gr bullet.The only problem I had last year was the sights stunk for shooting farther than 75 yards.
I decided on the Lyman 57SML peep and the lymann 17 AML front sight. Here is the picture of the outcome. The bullets I was using are expensive. I am thinking about moulding my own.
I told one of the guys in our local muzzleloader club I was going to change sights and they said I could not use it for the long range shoot (long gong shoot)
Oh well here is the picture.
 
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That's quite the "sleeper" rig. Have you considered a shorter front sight?
 
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That front sight is the one that Lyman recomended for that rear sight. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet with these sights. Ron
 
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If you need some more ideas check with Track of the Wolf http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partList.aspx?...ubID=167&styleID=763
 
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Can't help you on the sights - but you might try some of Bullshop's bullets. http://bullshop.gunloads.com/index.html

His prices are EXTREMELY reasonable. You should probably mic one of the NEs since they perform well and see what Bullshop can do on something similar in pure lead, lubed and sized. He does excellent work.


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Have you shot any of the Bullshop bullets? I looked at the prices andd they are good. Ron
 
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Ron, my very first bullets from Bullshop were tried with too much haste - that would explain the vertical stringing in this group of eight shots. Hurriedly thrown powder charges, lack of care regarding seating pressure, and I just don't hold as well as I once did. These are .451 conicals - I had him make 500 and sent 100 each off to three other shooter friends.

The rifle is capable of 1/2" groups at 100 yards. Take note of the horizontal spread of less than 1/2" in this bunch - bad bullets would be all over the place.

http://www.missouri-whitetails.com/data/500/49BullshopQuicky.jpg

He does a good job and packaging is remarkably good.


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What you need now is a set of Lee Shaver's inserts for this front sight. In that set, is a crosswire. You can double it up with a post if you wish. But the crosswire front insert is the flat out best in my opinion.

These are sold by Lee Shaver directly (google him) or Buffalo Arms or Brownells (and probably others).

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
 
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Underclocked, the horizontal spread was nice. I saw this type of stringing with my rifle with White super slugs. To be honest I thought it was the 777 that was the cause. I was getting a real bad leading problem. I was using 70 or 75 grains. The nipple was sticking bad, the cleanout hole screw was sticking, and the breech plug in my Knight was stuck HARD after a few shots with the 777. I am going to try again with pyrodex. I was getting GREAT velocity out of the 777 but not much in the lines of accuracy.
Brent, thanks for the info. I will be calling to get a set of inserts tomorrow. Ron
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Ron,
If you can, ditch the bp substitutes. They are just not worth it. Not even close. Pyro is exceptionally evil. If you do use, clean your rifle once per day for several days, AFTER you think you got it clean for the first time.

You cannot beat the real thing, that's why it's still around.

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
 
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Brent, No can do. Not one store with in 120 miles has any black powder, I will stick with pyrodex of one type or another. Ron
 
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I understand, although I thought Idaho was a bit more enlightened in this respect. Still there are several places in the region that probably sell it. Post over on http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/index.php and you will find out for sure if there is a dealer near you.

In the meantime, you can have it delivered to your door - this is what I do. Most mail order houses want to sell 25# at a time, but one will ship smaller amounts. Still, the stuff will last 2 centuries (at least) so why not stock up? Besides, you will have so much fun that 25# will be just about right for one season of shooting.

Anyway, if you want to find some dealers for mail order, it can be done, and I'll volunteer to help. Just say the word.

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
 
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25 pounds where I live would be over the legal limit for the town I live in. No I will stick with the stuff i can get a pound at a time. Ron
 
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http://www.powderinc.com/ or http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/ can sell in smaller quantities. Increments of 5 pounds I think.


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