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Through my own sheer stupidity I have the following problem to contend with.

The bore of my Austin & Halleck 50cal. 420 has two Cleanshot pellets stuck BETWEEN two Barnes expanders in sabots.

From the breech I have,
breech plug - Barnes sabot & bullet - 2 Cleanshot pellets - Barnes sabot & bullet.

Questions,

Does anyone make a bullet puller that works with the Barnes hollow point Expanders? I can't screw my regular bullet puller into the copper Barnes bullet.

Any chance the Cleanshot will detonate just from pressure?

If not, will a Barnes saboted bullet fit out through the breech end if I hammer the whole mess through with a rod from the muzzle?

I can also try to hammer it out from the breech end but it seems that the two sabots won't budge, I'm just compressing the Cleanshot.

I have the means to pull the barrel but would rather not if possible. 3 days left in the season and I'm stuck, any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob
 
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Can you pull the breach plug then screw a bullet puller into the back end of the Sabot? I would be worried about pounding on powder.
Or how about a silent ball discharger?
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First to disarm barrel remove Nipple Get a can of Liquid wrench pour liquid wrench into the hole where nipple was this will kill the powder at the flash end now pour liquid wrench into muzzle and wait for it to drain out the nipple end ! Now take breach plug out and push out the whole mess threw the breach end ! clean and re assemble ! Good luck
 
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I though of the liquid wrench or WD-40 or Kroil and I'll try it but I think the sabots are in so tight as to keep the stuff from ever getting to the charge.

I thought of drilling into the back of the sabot/bullet from the breech end but that requires pulling the barrel. Will do if necessary but thought there may be another way. A regular bullet puller won't go into the Barnes bullet.
 
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Problem solved.
Normally I don't like to publicize my own dumbass moves but in the interest it may prevent someone else....

Started hunting with the inline last year. At the end of the day, rather than fire the load and have to clean the gun I would de-cap, unscrew the breech plug and the two pellets would drop out. Next time I went hunting I would put the two pellets back in from the breech end, screw in the plug, cap and go.

Apparently at the end of last season I Ieft a saboted bullet in the gun. Today, not realizing it was there I dropped in two pellets and seated another saboted bullet. The ramrod came up short, I gave it a little extra push and it seated about another inch or so but was still short. When I unscrewed the breech plug I saw the back of the first sabot and realized what I had done. I now had two pellets between two bullets.

I sprayed WD-40 down the bore and tried forcing the mess through from both ends but what was happening was the pellets were compressing enough to lock the whole mass in the bore. I had to get one of the bullets out.

Luckily the Barnes bullets are hollow points. I took a piece of threaded rod that was slightly oversized to the hollow point and ground the first few threads enough to let it center in the hollow point. I dropped it down the bore, (shimmed to protect the crown) it centered, I tapped a few times and the turned the threaded rod into the hollow point. I got about 1-1/2 turns in but that was enough to pull the lead bullet out of the sabot. Then I took the ramrod and tapped the original sabot from the breech end. The lead sabot and pellets droped out as one mass. Then Iwas able to tap the rear bullet through.

Thanks to all for the support and not making me feel like too much of a DUMBASS!

Rob
 
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good to hear you got it out. Ron
 
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Thanks to all for the support and not making me feel like too much of a DUMBASS
More than one musket was found on the field at Gettysburg that was filled from breechplug to muzzle with unfired loads...these things happen.
 
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Thanks to all for the support and not making me feel like too much of a DUMBASS
More than one musket was found on the field at Gettysburg that was filled from breechplug to muzzle with unfired loads...these things happen.


Thanks, but I suppose those men were under a lot more stress than I. I'll give them a pass.

Rob
 
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Good for you ! I like liquid wrench !
 
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Glad you got them out. I would think one of the compressed air products designed to propel the load out the barrel would have worked as well?


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Glad you got them out. I would think one of the compressed air products designed to propel the load out the barrel would have worked as well?


Not sure, what psi do they operate at? I imagine I could have probably leaned on it with 50 pounds by hand.

Anyway all is well, won't do that again.

Thanks to all.

Rob
 
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