Years ago, I heard this was so.....I have a Lyman 50 cal. MZ....do i need an adapter for the nipple to accomodate shotshell primers??...or would I be better advised to buy regular percussion caps??
Thanks.
Alex

In years past a fella could buy an adapter that allowed the use of small pistol primers but I haven't seen a system that lets the sidelock owner use 209s.

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Originally posted by conifer:
Years ago, I heard this was so.....I have a Lyman 50 cal. MZ....do i need an adapter for the nipple to accomodate shotshell primers??...or would I be better advised to buy regular percussion caps??
Thanks.
Alex

My TC and Knight use Shotshell primers so yes is the answer if you BPR was made to use them.

You may want to check with the local Game & Fish department to see what is legal to use where you hunt.

Get a hot shot nipple you should be fine with precussion caps.

If you have a sidelock,try using musket caps instead of #11 caps.
most inlines with removable breech plugs can be changed over with a new 209 breech plug.Fixed breech models,best bet is also musket caps.

These used to be manufactured to use SR primers but this is probably what you are talking about: http://www.warrencustomoutdoor...start.html#mag-spark

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Originally posted by 7mmfreak:
These used to be manufactured to use SR primers but this is probably what you are talking about: http://www.warrencustomoutdoor...start.html#mag-spark

That's a perceptible improvement over the older small rifle primer job, especially the part about not being able to put the primer in upside down. Neat.

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Originally posted by nordrseta:
In years past a fella could buy an adapter that allowed the use of small pistol primers but I haven't seen a system that lets the sidelock owner use 209s.

It's called the Mag Spark, and is sold by October Country. Or you can buy it direct from the makers. Uses 209's on sidelock caplock guns.

Can they be used? Heck, it's getting harder to find rifles that DON'T use them. Even harder to get #11 caps in the stores around here.

If your Lyamn is a side lock then the answer is going to be no. If it is an inline then maybe. You are going to need more than just a new breech plug to hold the 209 primer. My #11 inline has a striker that crushes the cap to ignite it. The 209 will need something more like a firing pin. So, if there is a kit for yours it will have to include that too. I am considering it for mine but I think I may stick with what I have. My rifle does not have a closed breech and from what I can tell the methods for holding the 209 primer in place with those rifles looks like a bit of a hassle.

Oh one other thing to consider. The move to 209 primers was precipitated by the newer black powder subsitutes that are harder to ignite. I think some of the pellets will only ignite with the shotshell primers. If you use loose blackpowder or Pyrodex you really probably do not need them. I use Pyrodex pellets in my inline with #11 primers and have not ignition problems.

WHICH Lyman .50 caliber muzzleloader?

I have one of the small rifle primer systems that I use to use on my old TC New Englander. It made for very reliable ignition in poor weather conditions. I never had a misfire using it. It came with a small tool that stored and loaded the primers in the holder fairly quickly as they were hard to handle in the cold. I no longer have a need for it. If you are interested PM me.