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29 November 2007, 13:44
Minkman
12 gauge black powder shells?
Anyone know where to get black powderbuckshot shells?

Or a recipe for making these would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
29 November 2007, 18:45
Brent
Recipe is easy - 80-90 gr of any 2fg powder you want, a nitro wad, a fiber wad, fill to top with shot, crimp and go. Bout all there is to it.

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
14 April 2009, 04:19
500straight
I agree with Brent.

I have used the same load for years and it works great. I shoot skeet, pheasants and grouse with this load. Definitely use fiber wads, the plastic ones melt and make a mess of the barrel.

Have fun with blackpowder!!! clap
18 April 2009, 08:42
bpesteve
I agree, BP shotshells are vastly satisfying - but watch out for burning your hand on the barrels, BP makes far more heat than smokeless!

The classic BP shotshell web page:

Tom Bullock's black powder shotshells.
20 April 2009, 20:37
Hog Killer
Do not waste your time and money on ffg, you WILL NOT get enought vel, Use fffg It has proven to be a much at getting the needed vel to kill, cleanly. I was using GOEX for all my shotshell loading.(10&12ga goose loads)

I would not use Elephant Brand for my loads rither.

Keith


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20 April 2009, 20:50
Brent
There is no problem making good loads out of 2fg. I do it most of the time. In fact, either 2fg or 1.5fg is about all I ever use. And that is for pheasants, ducks, geese, turkeys. Works great.

Elephant Brand Powder went extinct many years ago (at least 5 if not more).

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
20 April 2009, 23:25
Hog Killer
Brent, what brand of powder? It does make a difference.

Keith


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20 April 2009, 23:32
Brent
Goex or Swiss.

Brand is not so important as which batch.

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
21 April 2009, 01:12
Hog Killer
quote:
Originally posted by Brent:
Brand is not so important as which batch.

Brent


Roll Eyes
If batches are different, then brands matter. All brands are not equal in "strength".

Keith


IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
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21 April 2009, 02:39
Brent
Keith,
In the early 2000s, Goex has been nearly as slow as Elephant was before it died.

No batch of Swiss has been even close to as fast as the very first shipment that came over and which was sold (illegally) in relabled Goex Cans.

At least one recent batch of Goex Exp 2fg will equal or beat the speed of any batch of Swiss 2fg or 1.5 fg that I have tests (4 or 5 in total) except the very first batch of Swiss.

This is all from my direct measurements. Not hear-say or best guesses. Brands do not matter, batches do. That said, I have killed pheasants, geese, ducks and even eland, with some of the very slowest 2f that Goex ever produced.

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996