I have been looking at this muzzeloader from Cabelas. I like it and wanted to learn more about it. A couple of months ago, I looked at their website and I have tried to bring up the website again asnd nothing comes up. Does anyone know what happened to their website? Or does anyone know anything about this muzzeloader or have any experience with it?

Thanks.

Caveman

I dont guess anyone likes these things, guess I will go with the Knight Disc or TC Encore.

Link to relevant read. I know nothing of the rifle other than what Cabela's provides.

Caveman,

I don't have any info on the buckwacka, but there are a lot of nice muzzleloader rifles at cabelas since i'm not sure if you want a traditional rifle or inline i'm afraid i can't help you much at this time. I do however work for cabelas and could do some research for you if you would like, just let me know what youm are looking for and i will do my best. The web site did undergo a bit of a facelift recently and that may be the problem you encountered. If this helps try www.cabelas.com Again if there is anything i can do to expedite your search please don't hesitate to ask.

Chris

Cabela's web site is still up and running. As far as the buckwacka is concerned, I was interested in it ,also, until NEF came out with the huntsman muzzleloader. It looks like the buckwacka, but it only cost me $139.50, and it shoots and cleans up like a dream.

Mad Dog

Mad Dog,

I have a NEF in 22 Hornet, that can quickly be turned into the muzzeloader "Huntsman" with the barrel. NEF told me they will only handle 100 grains of Pyrodex. I am new to muzzeloaders and am under the advice of my friends. I will only be using this gun for Elk hunting. They tell me that where we will be hunting in New Mexico, shots can be as far as 200 yards. They tell me that if I dont buy a muzzeloader that will shoot 150 grains of powder, then I should stay at home. This is the only reason I have not persued the Huntsman. The Buckwacka according to MDM can handle 150 grains and I know the Knight and the Encore can since these are by buddies weapons of choice. What are your thoughts on 100 vs. 150 grains of powder and these circumstances?

Thank you

Caveman

well, I shoot more traditional frontstuffers, non scoped sidelock models, anything over 100 yds. is out of my acceptable range for a safe shot, not that i disagree with anyone who chooses to shoot the more advanced models (wich some are really nice) just my personal preference. I will still offer my assisstance in research for you and help in any way i can so that you can get the right gun for you. (I do have access to the cabelas gun library staff) I also get to play with most of the toys on a daily basis (a nice perk to the job). Good luck and remember that even though they say that a stuffer is sighted right out of the box, Take the time to shoot and sight it in before you go hunting!!
Good luck.
Chris

Critter Gitter,

Check your email. I too have considered this muzzleloader. Would like any additional info you can provide.

Mark

Gundog i did ge my mail (you've got mail) and then i came here. What part of Nebraska are you, Obviously i'm in Sidney.

I have hunted both deer and elk in New Mexico (I live there) and while there is a possibility of killing an elk at 200 yards with a frontloader.
in my opinion it is a terrible mistake to take a shot of much over a hundred yards with one. Even if the bullet has sufficient energy for a clean kill at long range, the average hunter simply isn�t good enough at estimating the amount of drop of that big slow bullet to assure reasonable accuracy.

I have to confess that while I�ve hunted deer and elk for well over forty years I�ve only been MZ hunting for a couple of years. However, I hunt with guys with have used frontloaders for years and the most successful of them uses a 50 caliber Knight loaded with 90 grains of Pyrodex RS Select behind a sabotted 300 grain .45 caliber Hornady XTP bullet.

I use a different rifle with 115 grains of Pyro RS Select and the same bullet because that load gives me the best accuracy.

My advice is to get a rifle capable of shooting 150 grains of powder but start with about 90 grains of powder and gradually work up until you hit on the most accurate load for your gun. It doesn�t matter how powerful the load is if you can�t hit the animal. And above all IF THE ANIMAL IS MUCH BEYOND A HUNDRED YARDS DON�T TAKE THE SHOT. It simply isn�t worth it to chance leaving a wounded elk in the woods to suffer and die.

Caveman...Mel Taylor's response offers excellent advice for those who wish to HUNT instead of pushing the limits of a gun barrel's ability to resist coming apart when subjected to the internal detonation of explosives. Smokeless powder provides a controlled burn with rapidly expanding gases...on the other hand B/P literally detonates (explodes). When a trigger is pulled, regardless on what type of gun, if the gas generated by the powder burning expands at a rate faster than the area being provided for it by the bullet/ball racing down the barrel, your gun (regardless of who makes it) WILL COME APART. Another point to consider when evaluating your buddies' advice...B/P is loaded by VOLUME not weight, and Pryodex VOLUME does NOT cross directly over to B/P equivalents. Example: 70 gr of Pyrodex is equal to approximately 100 gr of B/P. Therefore 100 gr of Pyrodex is equivalent to approximately 143 gr of B/P (not too far off of the magic 150 your buddies swear by). I took the trouble to copy the following example of a successful load from the NEF B/P < www.HR1871.com> site for you. This is just one example of the info available to you from those who are experienced with success.

I shoot 180grain xtp 44 cal hornady bullets and green hornady sabots and two 50 grain Pryodex pellets. This zeros in at 2 inchs high at 100 yards. At 150 I'm 1 inch low on target. This combo took two deer for me at over 100 yards this season. Please note: take time to shot alot as pratice makes perfect. the deerhunter1955

For elk I'd move over to a heavier Power Belt type of bullet (295 gr or more). You'll find that there are MANY other examples of successful muzzlestuffers on the HR1871 site that swear by two 50 gr pellets of Pyrodex (or less) behind their favorite bullet for both accuracy and power in the NEF Huntsman. If you want to learn more about the NEF Huntsman (and this is NOT a sales pitch), log on to the www.HR1871.com site and get registered on their forum. This WILL help you considerably in making the RIGHT decision for YOU by providing you with factual info to evaluate rather than opinions from well-meaning friends that MAY get someone hurt. To me, your decision to get a B/P barrel for your current NEF action is a wise one (cost-wise, quality-wise, etc). I do not know who makes MDM for Cabela's (Italian, Spanish?) but if they are NOT a US registered firearms maker their testing methods may NOT be up to safe standards. NEF is a reputable manufacturer of modern US firearms (currently owned by Marlin) that can be trusted. By the way, the new Huntsman is as scarce as hen's teeth to find due to its current popularity and value returned for dollar spent. The B/P barrel you are considering should cost you in the neighborhood of $75 plus a waiting period, but I believe that you'll be more that happy in the end. Make your decision, but be informed...practice a lot, then go out and show your buddies how it's done. Good luck with your quest.