Hello Guys

I'm being sorely tempted by a Uberti Low Wall in 30-30 but old story, can't actually lay my hands on it to see what like it is. People tell me that these rifles are nicely made and finished.

I'm also real interested in how those in the gun trade rate Uberti's current metallurgy - I'm thinking I might want to use my 25-303 barrel on this action, and if Browning can chamber their modern Low Wall in 243 and 260, then maybe Uberti's will handle it OK.

If anyone knows the barrel shank spec for the Uberti Low Wall that would be good too.

Cheers - Foster

from what I see the uberti quality is ok, but I'd question putting a 25/303 on any lowall. That's a big rimmed round going into an action without much thickness.

Foster,

I asked much the same question earlier when I started gathering parts for a project on an original Winchester low wall action. The bottom line is, it isn't the metallurgy, it's the design of the action that discourages larger more powerful cartridges. The engagement surface of the breechblock is a LOT less than a highwall, and mostly below the line of thrust...which makes the block sort of a lever arm against the receiver. A very good gunsmith who is really familiar with the action wrote me a very detailed answer of why I shouldn't chamber my original in .30-30...I can forward it to you if you'd like.

The Browning low wall is an entirely different design, that only simulates the appearance of the Winchester action. They have been chambered for all sorts of modern high intensity cartridges, and would be the basis (for me, personally) of a custom rifle with the classic Winchester "look".

Greg

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Originally posted by g.pennell:
Foster,


The Browning low wall is an entirely different design, that only simulates the appearance of the Winchester action. They have been chambered for all sorts of modern high intensity cartridges, and would be the basis (for me, personally) of a custom rifle with the classic Winchester "look".Greg

Sr. Pennell - A serious question, not a disagreement or a smart-axx remark...could you please give a quick over-view of how the Browning low-wall action differs that makes it stronger than the Winchester?

I love single shots in things like
.25-35 AI, 219 Imp. Zipper, .25 Krag, etc., and can get my hands on some Browning Lo-Wall rifles at decent prices. So, after your comment, am considering buying a couple or three for conversion, assuming I reach the same conclusion........

Would appreciate any added info you can provide.

AC,

Basically the only thing the original low wall and the Browning versions have in common is that they are both falling block designs. The internal design is completely different, and the Brownings were designed from the start to handle the pressures of modern, high-intensity cartridges. Even though the profile of the two actions is similar, the recoil shoulders in the Browning are designed to take the thrust of high pressure rounds. I believe they were factory chambered in .223, .243, .260, .454 Casull, and other pretty hot numbers (IIRC).

The original Winchester low wall was pretty much limited to pistol caliber cartridges, and rimfires. Most folks I rub elbows with consider the .357 magnum about THE top end for an original low wall.

Might check the listings on gunbroker or auctionarms to get a feel for some other chamberings the Brownings came in.

Greg

Hello Guys

Greg - thanks fo this useful advice, I was aware the internals had been "updated" on the Brownings but didn't realise the overall geometry of the design had been altered. I have probably be saved from an expensive mistake - thanks.

Cheers - Foster