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Some pics of an 07 that you may enjoy perusing that was recently built for well known Australian author and Farquharson lover- Col Allison. It has upgraded wood and engraving and is chambered for 300 H&H magnum. Shoots 180 accubonds into .75" which was all Col wanted, so I stopped the load development there. The rather large gap between lever and trigger guard is a result of the lever warping during colour case hardening, and was corrected after the photo shoot (unfortunately). But all is now as it was before the colour casing, gapless. And for all you patriotic Americans the engraving, colour case, bluing,and checkering all done by U.S craftsmen in the U.S.A. Its a shame the wood doesn't show that well in these photos, its a stunner, very traditional colour, very hard, high end Turkish. From the guys at Luxus Walnut, in Ohio. (Dont see too many original Gibbs with wood like this.) I am having an E-brochure put together in the next couple of weeks with some nice pics. If you want to receive one send a mail to info@sorokarifle.com and I will forward you one. Cheers Glenn  jC_Col Rifle_004 by soroka07, on Flickr  jC_Soroka_4970 by soroka07, on Flickr  jC_Soroka_5206 by soroka07, on Flickr  jC_Soroka_5309 by soroka07, on Flickr  jC_Col Rifle_006 by soroka07, on Flickr  jC_Col Rifle_005 by soroka07, on Flickr  jC_Soroka_4915 by soroka07, on Flickr | ||
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Gratuitous gun porn OMG mmmmmmmmmmmmmm i want that !!!!!!!! | |||
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 What beatiful work you have done. Bravo!! | |||
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That, is simply one of the half dozen most beautiful rifles I have ever seen in person or in pix. Duane Weibe, Ralf Martini and a handful of others make rifles to an equal standard of functional magnificence and you should be proud of your creation. Please, let's not have superfluous comments here as to the "value" or "cost" of these, that hayburner has been sufficiently flogged on this site over the past several days. I would almost trade my big Rottweiler male for one of those and I love that big pussycat beyond what words can express.... | |||
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The ammo doesn't look like 300 H&H or is it just my old eyes..... | |||
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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Glenn, I have been a single shot fan since the mid 50's and I have to say that rifle is the nicest looking modern day made single shot I have seen. Congratulations on building such a fine rifle! | |||
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Yes, I mean this are some 7mm Rem Mag rounds. But the rifle is really a beauty. I will quote eskimo36: "one shot is usually enough" Martin | |||
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Thanks for the kind words guys. Indeed you are correct the ammo is 7mm mag. I only had 7mm mag loaded ammo when the opprtunity for the photo shoot came up so figured that some ammo is better than no ammo. Such is life. | |||
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Awesome. Would love to handle one one day. (How many have eaten Humble pie ???? LOL) . | |||
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Col has been owner of high grade rifles and shotguns for decades. It was his custom argentine 30/06(late 80s) by the late Jeff Wilkins, that helped inspire to have an high grade mauser of my own. Col is also an singleshot affectionado, and known to own orig. Farqies. In later years, at a private party with Col and the late Gordon Alford, he expressed to me,that, all he had spent on customs he felt was like throwing money to the wind, but he did not discourage from having built what I wanted. I gather that Soroka has impressed, for him to have reopen his cheque book. | |||
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What I can tell you from the discussions I have had with Col is that he is still a very keen and active hunter and that he loves Gibbs Farkies. He bought an 07 because of exactly the reasons why I decided to make them in the first place. He wanted a Gibbs Farkie made from modern steels with an upgraded design and stunning wood. I read about his Jeffries 7x57 mis-fire when taking a shot at a free range trophy 8 point sika stag in N.Z (in the mid 80's from memory. Good 8 point sika stags arent easily come by in this part of the world, so he was lucky to get a second chance). Very similar to the situation depicted in the movie "Lion and the Darkness" when Val Kilmer had the same thing happen but with Simba, but hey its Hollywood. Anyway he was tempted enough to buy one which for me is a significant acknowledgement in what I am putting together. Col, is not a fearful man either and was happy to place an order after a few conversations to finalise his "dream rifle". The guru of Australian gunmaking, Damien Conolly and the legend- Jerry Fisher both had a very good look at Col's rifle at the ACGG show in Reno and Damien said to me something along the lines of "Col's going to be absolutely over the moon when he sees this rifle, he'll be blown away", or words to that effect. Damien was very appreciative of what he had in his hands and Jerry told me that he'd love to build a rifle on one of my actions but he had too much work ahead of him to think about that at his age. He's cut his hours right back which is understandable at 80 something. Whilst I have only spent 7 or so hours with Jerry, it quickly becomes apparent that he is an extremely kind, gracious and honourable man. Anyway as has already been pointed out provenance is a matter of quality over time, associated with a "name". Its not brain surgery. If the rifles are put together as close to perfect as possible, then its just a matter of time before a reputation is made. Simply because no one can keep denying quality if it is obviously present. And everyone has to start somewhere... Cheers Glenn | |||
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Glenn, just some clarification if you dont mind; Sorokas come with some engraving as std.? Can one opt for a receiver without engraving? Can one specify thinner profile barrels [eg; say if one wanted a 7x65R with .570@24" with shorter reinforce] what is the price reduction of the rifle if one supplies ones own wood? Whats the price difference for Cols rifle with its upgrades compared to an std. level Soroka? ... just like to know what the actual cost is of the sample rifle we are looking at. | |||
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Yes, base engraving is a fairly large scroll at around 25% coverage. Yes, if you dont want engraving I happy to leave it off, minus $500. There will still be a Soroka Rifle Co logo engraved on LHS of receiver. It is very well executed- hand engraved. By law I have to have the makers name and place of manufacture engraved on the receiver and I decided to copy the old English way. Tom Turpin's rifle is an example- his rifle is $14,000 as you see it. Supply own wood minus $500.00. But no guarantee on shrinkage. I wont know how old it is. Any caliber within reason can be specified upto say 450 Nitro, maybe 500 Nitro can be built. Changing the contour to .570". from .600", which is standard non magnum diameter, will make very little difference, a ounce or 2. I have reservations about shortening the reinforce because the raised panels on the forend are the same length and this forms a harmonious "line" to the eyes. The front panels match the rear panels very well in proportion, so there's going to be no upside in shortening these either. Finally the receiver is more rectangular than the common originals (which is quite a bit taller.) Having a longer reinforce matches the longer receiver sides very well. Shortening the reinforce will place a spanner firmly into this. All these details have been carefully considered. When you see the rifle in the flesh, the side panels on the stock and the re-inforce all look about right. In the pics they look at little overbearing. Cols rifle has fine English scroll to around 90%, rings and grip cap around 35%, extra at $3500 Wood upgrade for Cols rifle was $2000.00. It is a very nice stick when seen in the flesh. These prices are in the U.S.A prices. If you are in Europe then there will be VAT and additional shipping to be taken into account. Cheers Glenn | |||
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I stumbled onto your web page some time back and liked what I seen. Will probbly never have that kind of cash on hand for one...but should it happen, I'm in! Down right stunning. _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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That about says it all. | |||
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I have had the actual story of the Soroka rifle relayed to me from someone who knows the man and his background, and how/where these rifles are built. I am deleting all of my posts on the issue. I am also asking Glenn Soroka to accept my apologies for my skepticism. Rich | |||
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Rich Photos of those type of things can sometimes give away commercial secrets or at least advantages. By your posts, since by your posts you are never going to buy one, why the interest in seeing photos of the shop ? I have some firearms parts made, displayed on a web site but I don't put all the photos up as it shows too much and I wouldn't expect Soroka to either. And as for "but a 7mag in lieu of the proper 30 Super..." all I can say is WGAF, does it really matter, especially to you who isn't going to buy one. . | |||
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A fab shop with 'commercial secrets'? In my experience, those who refuse to share their knowledge and 'special secrets' will generally be among the first of their breed to be forgotten as the years pass. I recommend reading 'The Secret of the Old Master'(?) by Lucian Carey, a wonderful rifle story featuring a thinly-disguised Harry Pope. The 'secret' of course lies in superior workmanship, not in any supposedly top-secret info or procedure. IMO if someone is afraid to share his 'secrets' then he is assuming that his product quality and personal expertise alone will not be enough to guarantee a worthy result and business success. I hope that you are not putting Soroka in THAT category! Many of the most famous smiths of the past are the ones who wrote (or had written about them) how-to books/articles showing their methods and the details of all their 'secrets'. IMO a true expert doesn't mind showing his methods, not at all, simply because he knows that his own skill will always result in a superior product no matter how many of his 'secrets' he shares. JMO. Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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Many of the British gun trade who wrote books etc were protected by Patents so it didn't matter if someone copied it, they were paid a royalty. Greener et al. . | |||
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Rich, do you have any photos of premises/workshop & people, that do the stockwork for Searcy? Have you spoken to George Hoenig yet? What view did he express to you about Glenn/Soroka product? | |||
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Heres an example of an worker, Derek Mills, from the British gun trade. http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/derek-mills/12/a18/410 Maybe Rich can show a similar quality CV for the people that contribute to building an Searcy. Derek Mills Past: •Gunstocker and gunmaker at P V Nelson Gunmaker •Apprentice and Gunmaker at Holland & Holland Gumakers Derek Mills's Summary: I have completed stocking, made parts, or complete guns for almost every "best" gun company in the UK. Just some of whom are Holland & Holland, P V Nelson, Boss & Co, James Purdey & Sons, Hartmann & Weiss, David McKay Brown, W W Greener, Atkin Grant & Lang, Westley Richards, Holloway & Naughton, E J Churchills. While working for so many different companies I have also worked on almost every type of gun. From the smallest Side by Side Shotgun, to the largest Over and Under Rifle, my experience has grown to cover all and everything in between. Having trained as an apprentice in the conventional way of making my tools by hand, I was also at the very beginning of the introduction of CAD and CNC to the gun trade, giving me an excellent depth of knowledge of both the old and the new manufacturing techniques. Specialties: Ultra high quality Rifle design and manufacture in Side by Side and Over and Under configuration, up to .700 Nitro Express. Shotgun design and manufacture in S/S and O/U from .410 to 4 bore. Derek Mills's Experience: Gunstocker and gunmaker P V Nelson Gunmaker September 1984 – January 2000 (15 years 5 months) I left Holland & Holland Gunmakers to join Peter V Nelson on a self-employed basis. Peter Nelson was still involved with Hartmann & Weiss, Hamburg until 1989 so I was the sole stockmaker for both of them in the UK until that time. I remained the sole stockmaker for Peter Nelson until 2000, helping develop guns that are widely regarded as being amongst the best examples of their kind in the world, both then and now. While only making a small number of guns per year the attention to detail was unparalleled, something that has followed me into my current position. Apprentice and Gunmaker Holland & Holland Gumakers September 1977 – September 1984 (7 years 1 month) Served 5 year apprenticeship and stayed on 2 further years but uniquely it was 3 in different sections of gunmaking. Following one year in the training school I trained in the finishing shop, then the machine shop and finally the stocking shop for the last 4 years. Which of the two do you consider more capable of creating an SxS of bespoke provenance, Mills or Searcy? | |||
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P.O.Ackley, James Howe, Roy Dunlap, Jim Carmichael, John Bivins and even (bless his little heart) Frank de Haas. To name only a very few. The least of these still remains far more successful and far more influential than any of the 'secret' crowd. In more modern times on this forum, the names Bailey Bradshaw and James Wisner are 2 to conjure with. Both have unhesitatingly and unselfishly shared their methods and measurements with us, and we're grateful. These are true experts and fine people. Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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I don't THINK anyone has suggested that the code be shared. Perhaps another smoke screen? How could a photo of a fab shop reveal the CNC code? Or any other 'secret' for that matter? Troll. Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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JD, Its not the code that's the problem. You've been listening to ISS to much. It's how the whole job is set up and programmed. | |||
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Siberia, I'm not sure that you really know your way around a fab shop. A piece of metal clamped in a machine is a piece of metal clamped in a machine is a piece of metal clamped in a machine, no more and no less. Most machinists and all toolmakers know that, like Paul Simon says in his song, "there are fifty ways" to do anything and most of them will work just fine. And, the 'setup and programming' of the action parts is only a small part of the rifle's production. I reject your premise as being basically unsound. I haven't seen Glenn claim any 'secret' stuff, are you making an ASSumption here? Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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Perfect rifle in the perfect caliber. Congrats. Mike JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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That sure is a NICE Rifle.You do excellent work Sir!!!!  | |||
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Piotti, who we are ... A visit to Piotti workshop short video series: Piotti customer tour Piotti mechanics Piotti assembly Piotti barrels Piotti stockwork Piotti engraving. We know that Martin Hagn finished the metal & inletted this Soroka, Rich, can you identify the individuals who did the same to your Searcy, and at what location it was done? ..can you show us anything at all, of what you have personally whitnessed of the Searcy operation?  | |||
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For christs sake people get over yourselves. I wouldn't show you pictures of my workshop/shed/backyard/whatever either & I really can't understand why you would think Glenn should have to. What makes you think you have the right to demand pictures from someone, then cry conspiracy when he doesn't produce them? If you like his rifle support him & buy one. If not, then fuck off & bother someone else! Glenn, beautiful rifle mate & Col Allison has been raving about it in the latest few Sporting Shooter magazines here in Australia, calling it "the rig I love most". Coming from a seasoned veteran of countless custom rifles as Col is, that is undoubtedly high praise. Congrats Mate, & I hope to be in a position soon to order my own Soroka 07. Keep doing what you're doing & don't listen to the haters. | |||
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Haha, what a cockhead! | |||
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Exactly! Read the thread title: "Soroka 07 Pics", Not "Glenns Workshop Pics". And you have no idea about my history, IQ, schooling, upbringing, work, life, family, or anything else but keep making assumptions if it makes you feel better. I have no desire to get into a pissing match with you because the problem with argueing with an idiot is I'm afraid you'll drag me back down to your level then beat me with experience. | |||
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ISS If you want to keep crapping on, start a new thread on wanting pictures of whatever it is you want and leave this thread to those that want to appreciate and discuss IN OUR EYES, fine guns, in this case the Soroka Single shot. Also posted on the other thread. | |||
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As much as I appreciate what the Soroka is, I am not into Single shots so afraid I won't be buying one. You know DR's are what I like. | |||
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Siberia, dont be too harsh on ISS, he was not the sharpest tool in the military cabinet, he only made it to US Ranger level. For the more the important tasks, they used higher level more capable personnel. | |||
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Ranger level. Shit. So that expains it. I thought he might have been a tunnel rat and was down a VC tunnel when an explosive went off, addling his brain (or what brain he did have). Probably like a hard boiled egg rattling around an empty 4 litre Saucepan !!! If he was as popular in the Army as he is here, he probably got fragged in the loo !!! LOL . | |||
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You just sent me a second and unwelcome PM in which you state, in an incorrectly spelled and grammatically improper manner, that both spellings of "Kootenay" are correct. This, according to "Spellcheck" and "Webster", you inform me and this directly contradicts your attempt above to denigrate my spelling, which IS correct. IF, you could actually read beyond "daycare" level, you would have seen that I STATED exactly this in my initial reply to your slur and why this is the case. I do not require "Spellcheck" and my point is based on the definition given on page 844 of the Second Edition of the Canadian O.E.D. Get over yourself and realize that you are making a total fool of yourself here; you cannot best me in debate and lack even basic English writing skills. You need help and soon before you go totally bonkers! | |||
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So did I, just a later period. I got more than a T Shirt out of it. | |||
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