I have a #1v that does not perform like I think it shoud.It will shoot 1.25 to 1.5 inch groups on a regular basis.Am I expecting to much? I want a short to long range (400yds) deer gun,or at least that is what I use it for.I have been handloading 100gr. Nosler bal.tips over 50grs of IMR 4831 sc.If anyone has this gun or some good loads, or some ideas to make the gun more accurate,I would sure like to hear.

Some #1s, especially early models had barrels made for Ruger by sub-contractor and were not up to snuff, however, 1.5" grps are more than adequate for deer out to 300+ yards, more than that and I think we should get closer!

God Bless

do a search - there's been lots of experience here in redoing the forend and hanger system on #1's, which is their common problem area

You need to try more loads.
The balistic tip is a very acurate bullet. But there is no bullet that shoots well in every rifle.
My experence with #1s has been very good acuracy.
My 25,06 likes RL-19 & IMR-4350. Most like IMR-4831 real well and I have loaded up some but not shot them yet.
Another powder to use is RL-22. Also try a different bullet weight. The siera 117 grain Game king and 120 graain hollow point game king are very acurate for me.
I would not do anything to your rifle to you give it a much better chance as is...tj3006

Songdog,

I had a 1V .25-06 that shot about as well as yours until I had SSK Industries perform a trigger job on it.

Apparently, that was all it needed as I was able to get sub-MOA groups (best was .416" for three shots at 100yds) subsequently.

George

Songdog,
I have the same problem with my #1B in 25-06. The best I can get is 1.18 and this was after trying several bullets and powders. I will keep an eye on this post and see if you come up with a solution. Good luck and God bless. cordell

Has anybody shot the 90gr hpbt Gameking.I just got through loading some,but have not shot them yet.I am useing IMR 4831.I have some RL 19 AND IMR 4350 to try also.I got some bedding to try,got the idea from this site,but I ant no smith,so I would rather just find a good load.Anyway,thanks for the info.Anymore would be appreciated.

Mine likes the 75 grain vmax. i also have one in rem 700 -- it likes the 100 grain hornady spire point. have some 90 grain sierras, but have not shot them out of either rifle. pretty much stick to RL-22 with the 100 grainers.

My Ruger #1 is the 1B version. I first tried several brands of 100 gr. bullets and none of them shot worth a damn. A friend suggested going to 120 gr. bullets. I tried the 120 gr. Speer Hot Core and groups are now in the .75" range on average when I do my part. I'll save the 100 gr. bullets for the .257 Bob.
Paul B.

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Originally posted by Songdog:
I have a #1v that does not perform like I think it shoud.It will shoot 1.25 to 1.5 inch groups on a regular basis.Am I expecting to much? I want a short to long range (400yds) deer gun,or at least that is what I use it for.I have been handloading 100gr. Nosler bal.tips over 50grs of IMR 4831 sc.If anyone has this gun or some good loads, or some ideas to make the gun more accurate,I would sure like to hear.

Might try dropping back to 49.0 or 49.5 grains.

Although I originally thought it would be too light of a load, I've found that my 1-B seems to like 49.5 IMR4831 (not SC) under a 100 grn B-Tip.

I also found that the gun shoots better w/ a SHORTER COL. Try 3.185", which is the same as the Win B-Tip Supreme. Flies in the face of conventional thinking, as that puts the bullet about .085" off the lands, but seems to work.

A trick that seems to work, is a 1" square of inner tube rubber (.060" thick +/-) placed at the very front of the fore grip. In other words, right between the barrel & fore grip. Couple guys in the Ruger No.1 Group, claim 50% smaller groups from this.

You will need to play w/ the screw tension a bit. If she strings vertically, the screw is too tight.

I also have a 1V in .25-06 - shoots like sh*t with the only factory load I tried, in order to get it to shoot accurately I had to seat the bullet out to touch the rifling (no mean feat in a Ruger), and use max. loads - only then would it perform. FWIW, I use VV N165 powder, and the max. load just about fills the case. I tried RL19 and H4831, but none of these performed as well as the VV load. That powder works well with both the Sierra 100gr matchking and the 90gr BTHP, but I did find the latter bullet a bit pickier as to load requirements.

You fellers take a look at this, see what you think. I have not had to do any of this with my No. 1V (6mm Remington). I just make sure I have a consistent placement of the rifle on the bags, with the front bag as close to the reciever as possible. My gun has a decent trigger pull also.
http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=17533

That's an ok group but it may do better without all that work, sometimes to much of a good thing is not good. If your looking for a higher degree of accuracy all you need is what GCF has mentioned, a 1" square of inner tube rubber about .060" thick placed at the very front of the forend, what it does is cushion and dampen the barrel vibrations, and if you have a decent barrel to start with that's usually all that's required.

The Ruger # 1 shooters in the Ruger No.1 Group, claim 50% smaller groups from this "trick", and the guy that holds some of the Ruger # 1 World Records is the guy that experimented with this idea about 5 years ago and has shot 5 shot groups in the mid ones and many groups in the mid twos with this simple "fix".

This is not a new thing as he got the idea from a Model 52 Winchester target rifle that was made in 1955 that still had the "factory" rubber cushion still under the barrel, so it was used on factory target rifles over 50 years ago.
SS

All the Ruger single-shot rifles I've owned were able to shoot 1 MOA, and several, half that. But generally, only with ammo specifically developed for each one. I found that Norma N205, and later MRP, to give the best grouping I got in the 1V .25/'06 I had. Also, the Sierra 117-grain PSPBT bullets shot the best for me.