I just recently started posting here, so, for the folks whom do not go to the NE forums, I thought I would post one of my single shots.

This is a .461 No.2 Gibbs Farquharson - APUN 913.
It is quite a rifle - for originality and condition. Definitely one of my faves!

Very late number for a .461.

Most were smokeless by then, no?

Love the rifle, BTW.

Loveley rifle; just curious as to the date of manufacture.

I have an original Alex Henry sporting rifle by Braedlin Arms Co, dated 1876 Ser No. 15 that
I expect would be roughly the same era

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrlexma:
Very late number for a .461.

Most were smokeless by then, no?[QUOTE]

Very late for a BPE rifle.
Even the Metford patent use number is a late one which is consistent with the rest of the numbers.
I figure it was maybe made about 1905 - just a guess. It is very close to the Prince of Wales gun so I bet someone knows the year.
In the books I have - as far as known guns - there are many nitro guns before mine and all after are nitro proved.
Bad Ass, I am thinking that your A.H. is maybe 20-25 years older.

What is a 461 Gibbs #2?

George Gibbs devised the .461 Gibbs cartridge primarily as a long range target chambering in his Farquharson target rifles. it was a bottle necked case with a paper patched bullet - this was the .461 Gibbs No.1 which normally had a bullet of 540grs. and a charge of 75grs black powder.
The .461 Gibbs No.2 was pretty much the same case but with a little bit longer neck to accomodate a bit greater charge of black powder - to 90grs. and a bullet of 570grs.
The difference is all in the neck length.

My gun is chambered to the No.2 case but sighted for the 360gr. bullet which is known as the "express" loading as apposed to the heavier 570gr. bullet. The charge of the express loading was also upped to 100grs. black powder.

There was also an express load for the No.1 but in that case the charge was 90grs. black powder.