Kind of like looking up a fine womans skirt, take a look.





It's for sell at Hallowells in Livingston Montana.

Nice rifle ideed It really deserves a rimmed cartridge

Those scallops on the back of the receiver
definitely look feminine.



Beauty !

dxr

It's nice, but I think it will sit there a while at $10K and a common every day caliber. Would have been a lot more fun at 6.5x68R.

I have a Blaser K95 in the same caliber, but this gun's nicer.

The wood is something to behold, except that the marbleing looks exactly like a brown Nylon 66

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Originally posted by SDH:
That rifle was in my shop and I sent the fellow to Morris Hallowell. It is now gone from Morris' site and I believe he sold it. It was a bit underpriced at 10K.

As extremely nice as it looks in the photos, it gave a bit different impression in the hands (to me anyway).

Well you know you just hate all things German! He has a couple of your guns for sale too, doesn't he?

I am not sure what Schillling is getting to build a new kiplauf, but I bet it's about three times as much as what Morris has it priced.

I wish we had more American made break action single shots that didn't look like abortions gone wrong (Encore, Contender, and Knight)......

Don't you have some blue prints you could share with the American/Canadian single shot loving public in your brain? We really need an American made gun like the K95, K1, and Hubertus for a reasonable amount.

SDH come clean, you really hate all things that go boom ans sprechen sie Deutche?

I still want a K-95. Stutzen.

SDH,

You know I am only screwing with you.

The Thompson Center TCR 87 wasn't a bad rifle, and compared to the abortion in looks that the Encore and Contender are it was wonderful. But compared to a KR1, Hubertus, or K95 they were ugly.

I like modern German-Austrian-Swiss (and French Dorleac) guns. I like old Germanic guns and I even like thumbholes. My taste are fairly widespread.

Have you ever done any stock or metal work to a TCR 87? I know where a couple are at $1100 each. I think this is a lot of money to put into a gun with so many unknowns. I think we could build new rifle barrels for it utilizing or copying the exhisting barrel shank and extractors. A nice SDH stock and some file work on the ugly action would be great.

Hello Guys

I too have looked long and hard at the TCR's (Thompson Centre Rifles) as the basis for something a bit nicer. Down here (in NZ) it hasn't been possible to handle one but it would be good to hear from someone who has had the opportunity to heft both a TCR and a one of the better european "Kipplauf's" ( I tend to think the Blasers are a bit like what a Playboy centrefold is to a Reubens original - to paraphrase Philip C Bolger).

It must be possible to find something that could be the basis for building satisfactory "walking arround" rifles. I am talking about the sort of thing one occasionaly sees in photos of Chamois hunts in Europe, here is the client with his $10K Blaser Baroness, looking like a pimp in a . . ., and just to the side is the guide, cradling an older very well used Kipplauf, that looks like it just growed out of the mountain and into his hands.

I have been watching for more than two years on www.egunn.de for such a rifle to come up. There has been one in this time, but I missed on it.

So . . . . please someone have a good look at the TCR and tell us if it would be worth spending (what would be for me anyway) a small fortune on making it nice. By this I mean is the basic geometry satisfactory, and is possible to "work" on the action, I presume it is investment cast steel, how are these to file and weld on etc. Will it take a nice rust blue ?

Cheers - Foster

I have a Blaser K95, I have never handled a TCR 87.

I have similar ideas as you. Blaser makes cheaper rifles than most of the ones seen around. They have $2300 US rifles as base models. I found another K95 in 7mm Remington Magnum, for $2400. So now I have two. Mine are both the prestige model, but you could probably find a used k95 for a reasonable amount.

Topbreak rifles for rimless cartridges are trouble waiting to happen. Can work fine for years and then stick. Also do not like giant overpowering high mounted German optic.

I love the giant over powering 3-12x56 German optic.

I have a TCR87 in 243Win.

The safety system is a pita and requires two fingers. There is a fore and aft positioned front of the trigger gaurd safety button to the cross sliding safety (which is kind of similar to a Winchester or Remington pump or auto shotgun safety.) To disengage the safety you need to push in the fore and aft button while sliding the safety.

I think the safety system would be less of an issue with a righty shooter, I'm a lefty.

I haven't shot the rifle much since shortly after getting it, being disappointed in the cumbersome safety for this lefty, I loaned it to my youngest brother, who cut his teeth deer hunting with it. He returned it last fall. (After +/- fifteen friggin' years! Forgot I owned it or had loaned it to him!) He killed a number of deer with it. Told me it worked well for him...

The rifle is not unatractive, and the scope and mounts kind of "hide" some of the sharp lines of the action. The top lever on this rifle takes some effort to open, requiring a good push beyond where you would think would open the rifle. The extractor works fine with the rimless case according to my brother and in my lesser experience with my own rifle.
There is adequate room for unloading spent cases and reloading when the rifle is open. As with any break open rifle, it is a nussance at the bench, but just fine in the field. I do recall that my brother was remarkably fast with follow up shots.

The barrel is a mid weight and is 23" long, I believe. Overall the rifle is a pretty compact affair and handi, with a good weight distribution and good handling to me. The stock is just a tad too thick in the wrist for my taste, which runs toward open and slim grips.

Some time soon I hope to get it out for some more bench rest shooting to find what it likes or doesn't and what the accuracy potential is. I don't recall from long, long ago, but my brother was apparently fine with it! Don't recall how the trigger is either.

Except for the safety system, I find the rifle pretty good as is. I don't think it warrants a whole lot of money or time spent messing with it. Maybe I'd look into seeing if the extra safety to the safety can be removed without creating an accident waiting to happen or slimming down the wrist and grip. Maybe some trigger work if required.

Hope this helps.

Edit: Thought I'd add that the rifle wears a Redfield 3x9 circa 1987ish and that scope or one of similar size seems just fine. Also, the rifle isn't a real light weight, but isn't a heavy weight either. Can't really recall actual scale weight, but 7 1/2lbs with scope sticks in my mind for some reason.

JPK

I had a top of the line TCR believe it was the 'Aristocrat' or some such. I was well pleased with it and wish i had it back. It was a 219 Donaldson Wasp and except for forming the brass it was one of the most pleasant rifles I have shot. Accurracy was impeccable with less than 3/8" groups with a load it liked. Except for the weird double saftey it could easily (by easily I mean with a LOT of hand work but no major redesigns) be made into a very presentable rifle. Basic action to me was sound and not unattractive but everyone has their view of what is attractive to them. Did not like the trigger guard but again a personal like. Single shots are an acquired taste and everyones is different.