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hey everyone,
just wanted to share my experience with the hicks accurizer today. before my 7mm stw would shoot a 3" plus 3 shot group at 100yds. today I shot two 3 shot groups adjusting it both times. the first group was about 1.5" with 1/2 turn on the accurizer after it touched the barrel.. the 2nd group was 3/4" with an additional 1/4 turn. I had tried everything including shimming the action to "float" the barrel. i tried a number of different loads and they were all the same 3" plus. this thing is awesome. thats all I can say. I am going to try another 1/4 turn after a good cleaning and see if it will continue to tighten up.. if there are any no.1 owners that are not happy with there rifle. BUY A HICKS. I do recommend installing it yourself though. eabco got $75.00 out of me for installing it and I could of done it with my dremel tool in about 45 minutes..
 
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Don't want to bust your bubble, but my system costs practically nothing but a bit of testing. Used 0.033" uplift and my #1 25-06 shoots in the low two's.



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thats what I had origonally done but when testing different loads the harmonics would change on me and I would have to find a different thickness shim. it was just to much of a pain. What do you mean by low two's?
 
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Fred is referring to teh size of group he was able to shoot with his modification .2"


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Posts: 71 | Location: Behind the Orange Curtain, Kalifornia | Registered: 06 January 2002Reply With Quote
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thats pretty good. thanks for the clarification. I haven't tinkered with this thing yet. these results were from a fairly quick range session and I only adjusted it twice from when it touched the barrel. Also I am going to start trying different loads for it now that the thing will shoot. this load was the first and only load I have shot throught the rifle other than reduced powder charges and different bullet seating depth. one thing to think about with a wood spacer is the fact that it will expand and contract in different conditions which will change your POI and your barrel harmonics. just some food for thought. thanks for the replies there doesn't seem to be many no.1 shooters that like to tinker with things. Its good to talk to some of them that do.
 
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ok I bow down to you and your little wood blocks that took you way too much time to screw with. I am sorry that my type of shooting doesn't meet your approval. simple fact is the damn thing works for those of you that want somthing that works and don't want to take the forearm off your rifle a dozen times buy the accurizer. maybe some people try a load and stick with it for a year and decide its not working and change then its back to the wood block production line. as for no such thing as an all around gun some of us can't afford 12 different guns to suit all of our needs and I will have you know I use 110 gr bullets for coyotes in my 270 and 140 for deer. thats an all around gun. thanks for proving that your way is better than mine and that I am a moron for spending the 50 bucks on it. I appologise if this sounds harsh but my intention was to show that this product worked for those who are interested. thanks for your input
 
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Consider my reply non existent. Discussion is suspended. In time you will experience. Nobody likes snoty replies.


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Try checking the Ruger # 1 group at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/RUGER-1 there's about 400 Ruger # 1 members in that group that have an interest in the # 1, I'm sure they will appreciate your testing.

Some just don't know or understand how easy it is to just dial in the pressure required to change the barrel vibrations and get most any load to shoot well.

Also check out the Files section of the group, there's some pictures of groups that I shot with and without the Hicks. It's amazing what the right amount of pressure will do for accuracy, and with the Hicks all you have to do is dial it in.
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ok I bow down to you and your little wood blocks that took you way too much time to screw with. I am sorry that my type of shooting doesn't meet your approval. simple fact is the damn thing works for those of you that want somthing that works and don't want to take the forearm off your rifle a dozen times buy the accurizer. maybe some people try a load and stick with it for a year and decide its not working and change then its back to the wood block production line. as for no such thing as an all around gun some of us can't afford 12 different guns to suit all of our needs and I will have you know I use 110 gr bullets for coyotes in my 270 and 140 for deer. thats an all around gun. thanks for proving that your way is better than mine and that I am a moron for spending the 50 bucks on it. I appologise if this sounds harsh but my intention was to show that this product worked for those who are interested. thanks for your input


Don't take it personally. You will find guys like that in every forum. They know how to do it and you don't,even if you are both doing it the same way. Roll Eyes
 
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I would like to appologize to zermel. I had just been posting a question on another forum to ask a question about a totally different hobby and I got bombarded with critisizm from one guy on what I was doing and then I read this post and kind of went off the deep end. again I appologize. It just seemed like he was competeing with me on which way was "better" and that wasn't my intention when I posted these results. I think its great that that way worked for him. Thats just not the method I prefer. Everyone has expereinced someone that totally over runs a forum with critisizm or opinions abd ruins there thread. thanks for the heads up on the ruger no.1 group thats a great site. thanks again everyone
 
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dartfreak8,
My results (204 Ruger K1-BBZ) were similar to yours. Tried the shim, sand, shim route but was not impressed, the Accurizer is excellent and I also recommend it to anyone who has a #1.

Thanks for sharing.

Jimno


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Posts: 209 | Location: Heart of the Bluegrass, KY | Registered: 19 September 2002Reply With Quote
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just for the benefit of us that don't have a clue what this thingie is...describe it and what it is supposed to do. I usually just drill the hanger and put a headless hexbolt in it. That bears against the barrel and does the same thing...or does it? Maybe a picture to post or a URL address?

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Idaho Sharp Shooter that is excactle what it does,My wood block wil do very well also.
The Ruger bedding it self if you care to look is a very ingeneous set up.

As you tighten the fore arm screw the hanger is pulled down which in turn put pressure on the forearm tip. By adjusting the bedding under the hanger you can increase the uplift on the
forearem tip.

When you install a Hicks or a screw or the wood block you distroy that uplift on the tip
Usually a 8x32 screw with 1-1/3 turn will lower the hanger about 0.030. This in turn will lower the tip by twice that and contact is lost.

Unless you reinstate the forearm uplift you rifle may not shoot as well as you thought it should. For one thing the front of the hanger is too far to the rear to do the best dampening job.

Dampening at the forearm tip is much better. The factory set up is not at all bad, also wood will set over time and the presure will get less. I found the .033 wood block together with a bout 15lbs uplift at the tip works well.


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