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My wife knows that I've wanted a #1-A in 7x57 for some time and suggested that I treat myself this birthday.

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Only my local gun shop can't seem to find one. Frowner

Anyone know of a distributer out there with a stack they need to whittle down? Smiler
 
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Rick.
Had to build my own 7x57. Got a used 243, bought a Ruger 7x57 take off barrel from Numrich.
Barrel band,front sight and 1/4 rib from
Brownell and the Alexander fore arm from Ruger.
The rig is deadky accurate with 140gr Nosler BT and Partition Bullets. One extension ring puts the scope in the right place.



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I've got a #1 RSI in 7x57 with pretty nice wood that's only got a few shots through it.


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Here are a couple of pics. Sorry they're so small.





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Zermel,

Nice rifle, that new fore end matchs the rifle as well as one on a box stock rifle. thumb
Did you have much trouble getting the Alex Henry forarm?

Slug,
My M-77 is a RSI in .308 and I love it, but I just can't get warm and fuzzy over the #1 RSI. They're available and according to reports I've read over the internet they are usually tack drivers (unlike the M77). They just don't flip that switch that will make me whip out the check book.

I may have to get a used rifle and take it down to Douglas for a refit...
 
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Find a used one.
I like the old ones with the pink recoi pads. I got mine with a 4 power leupold for 525.00 and sold the scope for 100.
Great rifle. Put a 2X7 VX2 on it in the standard rings.
Eye relife is fine till I turn it up past about 6. It shoots great with 140s...tj3006


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Zermel,

Nice rifle, that new fore end matchs the rifle as well as one on a box stock rifle. thumb
Did you have much trouble getting the Alex Henry forarm?

Slug,
My M-77 is a RSI in .308 and I love it, but I just can't get warm and fuzzy over the #1 RSI. They're available and according to reports I've read over the internet they are usually tack drivers (unlike the M77). They just don't flip that switch that will make me whip out the check book.

I may have to get a used rifle and take it down to Douglas for a refit...


I don't want to get too far OT, but what kind of accuracy are you getting from your M77 RSI?
I have three of them in .308 and one load I have seems to do well in all three rifles. Try 49.0 gr. of W-760 under a 165 gr. Sper Hot-core. That load shoots decently in my rifles and shoots to the same place as the Speer Nitrex ammo they used to make. One other thing you might try is remove that metal muzzle cap and relieve it slightly where it contacts the barrel. That made a 1.25" rifle shoot right at one MOA after I did that. It also improved the accuracy of the other two rifles as well.
My Ruger #1A in 7x57 had a bad barrel and had to go back to Ruger to be fixed. It's a good shooter now with just about anything I've run through the gun. I saw one at the last gun show in really nice shape but the guy not only wante an arm and a leg for it but my testicles as well. He wouldn't even dicker.
Good luck in finding one, new or used. Theys eem to be in high demand.
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I was planning on something like a low powered variable, 2-7x or 1.5-6ish.

Paul

I used to get good accuacy from the Nitrex ammo too. The rifle shoots under 2" at 100 yards with most ammo and as most deer here in WV are taken at about half that it works just fine. I haven't done anything to it's bedding. Interestingly enough I've gotten sub inch groups with the old Sierra 135gr single shot pistol bullet and H322 powder and last year I found that it will shoot the Hornady 165gr SST into around an inch using Varget.

It shoots, but it's a fickle little lady.
 
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Did you have much trouble getting the Alex Henry forarm?


Yes I did, they would not sell me one unless I send in the gun. Witch I did. They did a fine job matching the wood. I refinished the stock and the rifle looks like new with a new decelerator recoil pad.

Toke a nice WT doe last fall,with this 7x57, one shot in the neck no meat spoiled. No tracking it was getting dark by the time we got to the deer.


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I one in 7x57 with a fixed 6x Leupold. Have not shot it enough to get comfortable with a load. Shoots so-so thus far. It is an older slow twist model from the early 80s.
 
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For grins and chuckles I called Ruger today. According to the sales department they will be shipping some of these out in the middle of February.
I'll believe it when I'm filling out the 4473.

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I remember reading some years back about the No. 1 7x57 - and probably the 77 also since they use the same basic barrel - having excessively long throats and the bullets couldn't be seated out far enough to get good accuracy. I never had a No. 1 in 7x57 but i know long throats are a curse in some other 7x57 rifles.

Any one else remember anything on this matter?
 
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I got mine early. 1976. It is a "Liberty Model" Found out recently that it is one of anly about 500 such 7X57mm 1A's made that year. Mine is extremely accurate, under 1 MOA for three shots with handloads using 140, 160, and 175-grain bullets.

Guess I'll hang onto it for a while yet.

This 100-meter, 3-shot group is TYPICAL with 140-grain Nosler Partition bullets, 53.5 grains of WW 760 powder, WW cases, Fed. 210 primers.



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Now that's what I'm hoping for. salute
 
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I got mine for my 40th birthday (13 years ago) and have never really been satisfied with how it shoots, so #1 son is going to cut a tapered octagon barrel for it in 6mm Remington. Then, we'll see. Maybe if I make it mad and jealous, I can switch back the 7mm barrel and it will behave! lol
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Now that's what I'm hoping for. salute


I should have mentioned, mine has a long throat. So I seat the bullets out quite a ways. I use a 1-caliber deep seating depth with 140, 150, and 160 grain bullets. Just enough to give a good grip on the bullet.


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El Deguello,

How are you? You helped me a few years ago with the Ruger rings after I purchased a 7MM STW, and it came with 1" rings. Ruger sent the 30mm rings as you said...Thanks again.

I just came back to the forum, and obtained some more good information. I discovered that my 7X57 No.1-S, 26" red pad is vintage 1974. the gun was purchased used but I did not know the build year. It is a very mint piece, with gorgeous wood and shoots needles...close to your groups, but I won't compare.

Very Nice Targets!

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Hey,Rick R : Did you ever find your 7x57 Ruger # 1? I have one with the henry forend #1A virtually new $700.00 Shipped to your ffl. Thanks, Luke lukeswoveland@hotmail.com
 
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Mine, pictured above, is for sale if anyone is interested. It has pretty nice wood and I could include the scope if you want. It's a Nikon Monarch UCC 1.5-4x.


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Fine, powhatan-thanks for asking!!

I bought the very first 7X57mm No. 1 I was able to find for sale. (Bought a 1B in 7mm Rem . Mag. eariler-it was the only 7mm chambering Ruger was offering at the time. I had asked for a 7X57, 1st choice; 280 Rem, 2nd choice; or 7mm Rem Mag. They sent the 7mm Mag.! But it the 7 Mag. has been a good rifle, too. ALL my Ruger singles have been accurate, including a No. 3 in .30/40 Krag.


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I came across a used Ruger No.1, 1B in 22 Hornet, red butt pad serial# starting 132-XXXXXXX. Asking price was $600.00, with dies and a worthless scope. What do you guys think?

The gun was owned by an older getleman, original triger...crisp but chould use a Moyer for this caliber. Basically the gun is 95%. Daawer backs are 5 slight scratches on the foregrip. The bore looks good and judging by the off brand scope, I would say it wasn't shot that much.

Thanks,

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I came across a used Ruger No.1, 1B in 22 Hornet, red butt pad serial# starting 132-XXXXXXX. Asking price was $600.00, with dies and a worthless scope. What do you guys think?

The gun was owned by an older getleman, original triger...crisp but chould use a Moyer for this caliber. Basically the gun is 95%. Daawer backs are 5 slight scratches on the foregrip. The bore looks good and judging by the off brand scope, I would say it wasn't shot that much.

Thanks, Glenn


I have always thought I'd prefer a 1A in .22 Hornet, but I think $600.00 for a 1B in that caliber is a good deal.

IF it is an earlier one with the three-screw trigger, replacing it with a Moyers trigger would be pointless, as the Moyers is the same design, but in steel instead of the aluminum Ruger used.....

My 1A 7X57mm has a Canjar SST on it. A great trigger, which I generally use UNSET - it has a fabulous unset pull.....


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I would check guns america...tj3006


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There are no distributors that I can locate with Ruger 1-A 7X57 or 30-06 in stock.

You can make inquiries by email now. I inquired and they answered as if they did not read my question thoroughly. They said "check with a local distrubutor". I wonder if they hired a high school drop out who knows virtually nothing about the business, only what he was trained in one week.

I called Ruger and they said they were 30 to 60 days behind in production on No 1's. They could not give me any details on specific models or calibers.

The distributors have been out for several months now.

Frustrating!

When Bill Ruger met the supreme architect of the universe, some things may have changed for the better but some things are definately worse.


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El Deguello,

What is the difference between the 1A and the 1B? Doesn't the 1A have sights and a barrel band?

Thanks,

Glenn
 
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The one A is the lightweight verion. 20 inch tube , alex henry forend, and the sights as you mentioned.
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Tom. The #1A has a 22" barrel. A #1 B in .22 Hornet is a good buy. I gave $500 for mine and have been offered almost double what I gave for it. As I understand it, the #1B in .22 Hornet is one of the scarcer models, not so much a limited run, but they didn't make a whole lot of them. If mine is any example, .50" groups s with Winchester 45 gr. factory loads should shoot real well in that gun. I have not tried any handloading for mine yet, but I'm getting up a nice supply of once fired Winchester brass for that rifle.
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What is the difference between the 1A and the 1B? Doesn't the 1A have sights and a barrel band?

Thanks,

Glenn
The 1A 7X57mm I have has essentially the same barrel on it as has my M77 tang-safety version of the same caliber. But as you note, the front sling swivel is on a barrel band ahead of the A. Henry style forend. The barrel is 22", not 20", but it is a lightweight configuration. The 1B's all have "medium-heavyweight" barrels, the fat forends, and as you note, 1A's have iron sights, and the 1B's are sightless, just set up so you can put a set of scope rings on their quarter-ribs.

It is the No.1 RSI's that have 20" barrels, along with, of course, the Mannlicher-style full-length "stutzen" forends.


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