Hello voyager, you can get a used Heym-Ruger in one of the german rimned cartritges like the 7x65R, 8x75RS or the 9,3x74R for ca. 2000Euro, with a good scope. The Heym-Ruger used the No.1 action with better finish and often a octag.-barrel, stocks with bavarian checkpiece.
I own a normal No. 1 with a Lothar-Walther-barrel in .300 H&H, great rifle! But look for a used K 77 in 8x75RS, it is the forrunner of the K 95, but a more beautifull rifle, you can get a perfekt used K 77 with a good scope for 1500-2000 Euro!

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Originally posted by voyager:
Gentlemen..
Again alot of good info from you all..It gave me something to work with.

A practical question:
How fast can you load reload for a second shot if it should be needed?
I realize that some practice for reloading is required, but what would be realistic?

// voyager

A practiced rifleman shooting a Ruger #1 should not be too much slower shooting "AIMED" shots than the average person shooting "AIMED" shots from a bolt action. You'll never be as fast as a target shooter in rapid fire. If that "average" bolt action rifle shooter can get off an aimed shot in say 2.5 seconds, it might take you possibly 3.0 to 3.5 seconds for your aimed shot, depending on the amount of recoil from the rifle. Remember, the emphasis is on the word aimed.
I have found that opening the action as it recoils and twisting the rifle slightly to the right aids in kicking the spent cartridge out keeping from hitting the safety button.
Holding the spare rounds between the fingers get old and painful ina very short order. Some people use a butt cuff, some a holder on the off side shoulder, others use a cuff on the wrist of the arm that holds the forend, and finally, some use a holder on the belt for the spare rounds, usually alternating one shell, one empty space, another shell, then an empty again. This makes it easier to grasp the next shell should you have to take a second quick shot. The trick here is determining which system is the most comfortable for you.
The current issue of RIFLESHOOTER Magazine has some information on radid reloading of the various types of rifles, with some data for the single shot rifles like the Ruger.
Al Miller did an excellent article on the subject called SPEED LOADING SINGLE SHOT RIFLES in the January-February Number 43 Issue of RIFLE Magazine. You might try contacting WOLFE PUBLISHING and see if you can either order a back issue or if they will make you a copy of the article.
Paul B.

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Depend on wich Ruger #1 you want?
A shorter one #1-A with 22" barrel with iron sights or a #1-B "longer" without iron sights.
Or #1-RSI 20" full lenght stock.

I would vote for 7x57Mauser, .270WIn or .30-06 Spr. Will be enough for most hunting for european game. If heavier game as boar or moose is common go wiht .30-06.
Or if you belive in magnum use that but than you can only choose the #1-S with 26" barrel.

If you go for a custom there is a lot of cartridge to choose between.
fredj338, the .338x74 Keith sounds as a perfect cartridge for a #1 and bigger games do you have a picture of cartridges and some information about loads?

I choosed the 1-A in 7x57 for my "walking rifle" a compact rifle with all punch I need.

That's some real nice wood on your No. 1A there!

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Originally posted by voyager:
Gentlemen..
Again alot of good info from you all..It gave me something to work with.

A practical question:
How fast can you load reload for a second shot if it should be needed?
I realize that some practice for reloading is required, but what would be realistic?

// voyager

When close to dangerous game with ANY single-shot, always carry two extra rounds between the fingers of your left hand, (assuming you shoot right-handed-otherwise turn it around), then, immediately after firing, open the breechblock with your right hand, then, siezing the grip with that same hand, shove a new round into the chamber with the other hand. Now slam the block closed, and you are ready to shoot again. If you practice reloading this way, you can get off three shots as quickly as anyone using a heavy caliber bolt action! This is the way African hunters carry their reloads for double-barreled express rifles when in close proximity to M'bogo, Tembo, or Simba!

I use buttstock cartridge carriers on my single-shots, cut down to hold five or six rounds. These permit reloading quickly enough when you don't have a dangerous varmint breathing down your neck!

I started using a single-shot about the time it dawned on me that I have rarely been presented with the opportunity for more than one shot while hunting anyway - the first shot must count, or forget it!! I have never lost a head of game I have shot at with a rifle, including a single-shot or even a muzzleloading rifle. So I guess the SS is fast enough!

My two that cover most hunting are : No1 Varmiter in .220 swift and the other is a No1B in .30-06. Both are great shooters and cover the bases pretty well.

Hello Guys

I choose to keep a pretty limited "battery" but let me explain my thinking on a new "go to" carry rifle I'm now building on a #3 action (because that is what I could get at a modest price)

The biggest animals I can hunt here are Wapiti (Elk if you must) but the toughest are probably Himalayan Tahr.

I run a .222 bolt action carry weight varmitter, and a 7x57 bolt action as my "serious" trophy hunting rifle.

When I started really thinking about a single shot, my thoughts ran along the lines of "is there something right in between the .224's and 284/30's that would do both jobs at a pinch" - the 250 cartridge family seemed a good answer, and I like the 257 Roberts a lot, so thats the #3 it will be. When I'm just out enjoying the back country and mountains, without specific game in mind, this will be the rifle slung over my shoulder.

Many .250 cal cartridges will run varmit weight projectiles at high enough velocities to get varmit size animals out to 300 yards, while there are some really fine 120 gn .250 projectiles that I'd be comfortable using on the largest deer size game. The 264/6.5's would be equally as versatile.

With this selection of bullet weights recoil isn't going to be an issue, so I can make the rifle as light as I figure it needs to be to balance well. It'll be sighted in for the varmit weight bullets, and I'll shoot it a lot so I'm confident of picking the point of impact of the 120gn bullets out to 200 yards. Its a single shot so I'll be pretty considered in my choice of shots on bigger game. Maybe if I get a scope I can really trust to adjust consistantly (I'd love some suggestions on this) I'll break a long standing habit, use target style turrents and adjust the scope between the loads.

Just my thoughts - Foster