Hello!

Been watching this forum for a while, impressed by the know-how here!
New member now.
I have a question, anybody have any experience of the 1885 Highwall made by Uberti in Italy?

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1885-high-wall.tpl

I have ordered a Special Sporting in 40-65win, Intended for some serious blackpowder target competition.
All comments are welcome!!!

I looked at the Uberti Highwall in 40/65 and finally went for a Pedersoli Silhouette Sharps in the same calibre,
Reasons:-
A) Twist in the Sharps was 1/16" compared to 1/18"
B) longer 32" barrel
C) Double Set Triggers
D) Heavier overall rifle
I am very pleased with my choice as I can get 10 shot 100yd groups with BP as small as 1.5"

Hello Wallace!

Thanks for your reply!
I have been shootin since 1993 with a Pedersoli Remington Creedmore in 45/70 with very good results. This years Swedish Championships I won with 100p of 100 possible (100m prone with sling, 50mm ten-ring).

Wanting to try something new I was looking for a Highwall, but they are very expensive and hard to get over here. Then I saw some Norweigan guys shooting these Ubertis, they actually beat me to... once..

I was considering the twist as well, 18" is a bit on the slow side, but using 370gn-390gn would be no problem? would most likely shot 100-300m papertaget only.
I think mine will come with a 32" barrel?
The rear stock will be replaced and filled with some lead.

Any comments on the caliber .40-65?
I have no previous experinece of this one.

[ 10-08-2003, 16:38: Message edited by: Blackpowder ]

40/65; I load mine with 57gn FFG Swiss black powder and a Lyman 420gn "Snover" bullet. It casts with my alloy 416.5gn. I weigh every cast bullet to +0.1gn -0.0, weigh charges and use wax wads, grease cookies and card wads. Velocity is 1180fps

The 40/65 has about 30% less recoil than a 45/70 and cases are easily formed in one pass through a F/L die. If you go for the Pedersoli the choice of case must be Remington as they are only 0.498" across the solid head while winchester are 0.503. Lyman cowboy dies are perfect match to the
pedersoli chamber and the remington case. Winchester cases tend to stop at the solid head going into the die and are difficult to chamber in the rifle.

I am having great success with a duplex load of 15gn FFFFg as a primer and 45gn FFG as the main charge. This load has boosted velocity by 140fps but more important, I can fire up to 30 rounds without cleaning.

I have Pedersoli's 1874 Sharps in 40/65 & 45/70 and a Rolling Block "Target" in 45/70. I currently have on order a new Pedersoli Sharps (Mod 788-507) Long Range Rifle in 50/70. That ought to be perfect for hunting sabre-toothed field mice!

[ 10-08-2003, 20:08: Message edited by: Bad Ass Wallace ]

Hello again Wallace!

Thanks for the information on the 40-65win.
I think it could be a good performer on the matches in the future!
I've asked my dealer for either Redding or Lyman FL tools.
I have a RCBS 40-350-CSA mould, previously used in a muzzleloader, it casts a 370gn nice bullet.
Looking forward to some load developmnt.
I've previously used mainly win brass in my 45-70, have a stock of rem brass also, will try it out.

In my 45-70 I've been using 71-72gn Swiss #4 (1�F?), FED210, fairly soft Lyman #457125, specially bore-ride sized nose, to fit my deep grooved bore (11,30mm/11,68mm!) and my fathers bullet lube.

This is off topic but seems to fit in a little. Are these actions fairly strong? Could one be barreled for .348 Improved or something along those lines? Just curious.

Thanks!

If the Uberti action is made in the right material, it should be strong enough I'll guess.
I'm also lacking further information about the action, was hoping for information from this forum.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/SSmenu.htm

Cimarron are selling a Highwall in 30-40Krag and .348win, no information of who is the manufacturer of this one? Uberti?

If the Cimarron .348 comes with a crescent buttplate I would not care to shoot it.

My 40-65 will come with a curved buttplate, this one will rapidly be replaced by a shotgun type buttplate!

Still nobody with experince of the Uberti Highwall???

I have a Cimarron Arms Uberti Highwall in .40-65 with the optional checkered pistol grip stock and forend. I bought it secondhand for about half of new list price, so I am very happy with it. It is a drop dead gorgeous rifle, and with my smokeless loads using the RCBS 300 CAS bullet I have shot some groups at 100 and 200 that push 1 MOA. That is probably more than half luck, as my bullets are not weighed. Mine has a 30" barrel, and I cast a lead rod to put in the stock. I use it mostly for offhand shooting. It is a tad heavy for that application. Probably a tad light for a silhouette rifle. I don't know if DST are available. I know a couple of other guys who have them as well. Trigger pulls are heavy. You need to replace the sear spring with a much lighter one. Then they are very nice.

Blackpowder in your post you said: "In my 45-70 I've been using 71-72gn Swiss #4 (1�F?), FED210, fairly soft Lyman #457125, specially bore-ride sized nose, to fit my deep grooved bore (11,30mm/11,68mm!) and my fathers bullet lube"

Just out of curiousty what is your "fathers bullet lube" if you would share the formula for it with us? thanks, k2 in orygun

My father has been cooking his Bullet-lube for almost 20years, beqause he sells it I can't reveal it's ingredients... it is sold by this company in Sweden: http://www.skytteservice.50megs.com/
It is a blackpowder lube, differs from for example SPG as not beeing by far as sticky, and waxy, and much softer, maybe not so good for high temperatures.

Fourarmed,
Seems like good news about the Uberti Highwall!
Would be interesting with some more loading data for your 40-65.

BP, the load that is currently my favorite is 22 grains of IMR-4198 with 4 grains of dacron quilt batting for a wad. The RCBS 300 CAS bullet is cast from wheelweights with about 1% tin added. Lube is alox/beeswax. I use the Winchester LR primer and I don't crimp. (My barrel has no throat at all that I can detect, so I have to seat a little deeper than the crimp groove.) I tried the Lyman 410459 .41 mag bullet, but never got very good accuracy. I have some Leadhead's 265 grainers that proved too heavy for my Dan Wesson to stabilize. I'll get around to trying them in the Uberti one of these days. I also have a mold for the 350 RCBS, but it kicks more, and it's only a single-cavity mold, so I haven't gotten excited about it.

My bullet lube is 4 parts beeswax, 3 parts Copha(coconut oil), 1 part pure virgin olive oil. SPG is priced at over $14/stick here so I use my alt grease with just as good results and about 1/10th the price.
Incidentally for those who don't like the 40/65 Winchester, these rifles cab be easily rechambered to 40/70 or 40/90 Sharps bottleneck.
A friend of mine has rechambered his 40/65 Pedersoli to 40/90 and it really performs well on the steel rams with a 420gn Lyman Snover projectile and 85gn 2F Swiss.

Thanks to both Fourarmed and Wallace!!

I'm still waiting for my High Wall, which have not arrived yet

Meanwhile I'm trying to get as much information as possible both about the High Wall and the caliber 40-65!

I don't know anything about Uberti's metalurgy but Ballard has chambered their High Walls in 500 & 577NE. I didn't think it was possible but that's what it says in their literature. I guess as long as the pressure isn't too high. Must feel great with those crescent steel buttplates.

[ 11-13-2003, 00:22: Message edited by: fla3006 ]