Hi,
I bought a .270 Win. NEF some years ago (1995?).
It shoots incredible with Hornday Custom ammo at first, 1 to 1.5 MOA.
Then, as I began to reload and use other ammo never could get the same accuracy.
I found some "play" at the action, as I can close it with a paper between the back of the barrel and the breech.
Finally sold it.
I get the impression that the .270 Win. have to much pressure for this action.
I would like to hear some experience with this rifles.
Thank you very much.
Martin

Martin, I don't own one, but my son has shot one for 3 yrs. To me the guns are kind of a crap shoot. You get a good one, and they are really good, you get a bad one, well....

My son got an H&R Ultra[fancy handi rifle], .30-06 in 2006. We started having trouble with it from the git go. Stuck casings, then a broken transfer bar, etc. The gun crapped out 4 days before our African safari, this past summer. My son borrowed my buddy's .30-06 handi rifle, took it to RSA, and shot 7 head of game with it. That gun is a keeper. When you read enough about the guns, the rimmed cartridges, such as the .45-70, .30-30, etc., seem to be the most accurate and trouble free. That might answer 1 of your questions about pressure, these cartridges work at a lower pressure. Don't know if this answered any questions or not, but that's my take on these rifles, you either lovem or hatem

Mad Dog

Mad Dog,
Thank you very much for the information (and the permission).
I think that high pressure cartridges are not good for break open rifles.
Thanks
Martin

I calculate that the NEF is much stronger than the 45/70 brass.

I worked up a load with an NEF 45/70 until the brass flowed.

The 45/70 case head is stronger than the 270 and has more area.

I got no change in head space with more bolt thrust than you.

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I found some "play" at the action, as I can close it with a paper between the back of the barrel and the breech.

Does this mean you didn't find such a gap when the rifle was new?

Many (most?) break open rifles leave a gap between the breech and the barrel. Some models of Maynards had gaps of about a tenth of an inch.

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Originally posted by Martin Godio:
I think that high pressure cartridges are not good for break open rifles.
Thanks
Martin

I and many Encore owners beg to differ.

Thank for your answers.
asdf,
I do not know if there was a gap before, but I check the gap after I found some movements with the action closed.

dsmit50,
No offece intended but for years break action rifles use low pressure cartridges.
I know the Encore was designed for high pressure.
Thanks
Martin

http://forums.accuratereloadin.../4711043/m/848109883

check this thread and see what they are doing with the NEF/H&R